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Is it just as racist to SUPPORT someone based on race; as it is to OPPOSE someone based on race

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no
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:49 pm



Neoteny wrote:Ugh... Piers Morgan... can we give him back?


Why?
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Neoteny on Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:58 pm

I'm not a fan.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:18 pm

Neoteny wrote:I'm not a fan.


I know! I cannot f'n stand him! But he gets a lot of big interviews, and I do watch him a lot, and he did win Celebrity Apprentice....
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Gillipig on Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:48 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Black actress causes fire storm for expressing support for the "white" candidate, which somehow has made her "the most controversial person in America"?



She got a call from Paul Ryan!
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:53 pm

Gillipig wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Black actress causes fire storm for expressing support for the "white" candidate, which somehow has made her "the most controversial person in America"?



She got a call from Paul Ryan!
\:D/


Three words, people are stupid!


but where are the racist attacks coming from? Why are there racist attacks at all?

Why is there so much pressure from a certain community against Stacey to oppose the very essence of REv. Martin Luther King Jr's message??
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby keiths31 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:13 pm

Saw this today. Just shows that people are racist regardless of their political leanings. Closest thing in Canada would be a francophone Canadian voting for an English Prime Minister.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Symmetry on Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:51 pm

keiths31 wrote:Saw this today. Just shows that people are racist regardless of their political leanings. Closest thing in Canada would be a francophone Canadian voting for an English Prime Minister.


There is a lot wrong with what you're saying here.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby keiths31 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:06 pm

Symmetry wrote:
keiths31 wrote:Saw this today. Just shows that people are racist regardless of their political leanings. Closest thing in Canada would be a francophone Canadian voting for an English Prime Minister.


There is a lot wrong with what you're saying here.


How so?
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Woodruff on Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:51 am

Symmetry wrote:
keiths31 wrote:Saw this today. Just shows that people are racist regardless of their political leanings. Closest thing in Canada would be a francophone Canadian voting for an English Prime Minister.


There is a lot wrong with what you're saying here.


There is?

Are you trying to say that people are NOT racist regardless of their political leanings (which is also true)?
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Re: Poll on Racism: Stacey Dash

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:13 pm

keiths31 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
keiths31 wrote:Saw this today. Just shows that people are racist regardless of their political leanings. Closest thing in Canada would be a francophone Canadian voting for an English Prime Minister.


There is a lot wrong with what you're saying here.


How so?


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Honest conversation about race in America.

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:01 pm

Views on race relations in the U.S. have come down sharply from new levels of optimism reached after President Barack Obama's election in 2008, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll suggests.

Optimism over race relations in the U.S. has slid since its historic high in January 2009, when 79% of whites and 64% of blacks—described such relations as good.

In the new poll, only 52% of whites and 38% of blacks felt that way.


I think the average Obama voter had a very different idea what would happen to racial relations in America when they elected him president.

For anyone who wants to have the discussion, what are the reasons for such a dismal plunge in race relations? They seemed pretty darn good 5 years ago.
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Re: Honest conversation about race in America.

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:07 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Views on race relations in the U.S. have come down sharply from new levels of optimism reached after President Barack Obama's election in 2008, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll suggests.

Optimism over race relations in the U.S. has slid since its historic high in January 2009, when 79% of whites and 64% of blacks—described such relations as good.

In the new poll, only 52% of whites and 38% of blacks felt that way.


I think the average Obama voter had a very different idea what would happen to racial relations in America when they elected him president.

For anyone who wants to have the discussion, what are the reasons for such a dismal plunge in race relations? They seemed pretty darn good 5 years ago.


Did they not poll any other races (e.g. Asian, Hispanic*)?

*For purposes of this discussion, being Latin American or Hispanic is a race. Yes, this footnote is directed at Woodruff.
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Re: Poll on Racism

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:52 pm

Symmetry wrote:Oh please, the idea that some black people are promoting an "us-against-them" mentality has long been a scare-mongering tactic for the radical right.


I'm taking it you have not heard of the knockout game, that is black people specifically targeting white people? This has gone way past 'promoting', people have been killed. Sounds like an us vs. them thing to me.



So while you are living in lala land espousing the opposite of reality, you should know by now you are clueless to the point you have no business talking on the issue of race or racism with anyone.

Put Symmetry down as one of the people who have been sweeping the problem under the rug while encouraging and feeding and empowering this kind of racist violent culture.

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Re: Poll on Racism: Race Relations in America

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:29 pm

Since when is 'Asian' a race?
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Re: Poll on Racism: Race Relations in America

Postby BoganGod on Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:18 pm

There are multiple races in asia. Malaysian GP is one of my favourite events. Seeing the pit girls in a hot climate wearing more than somewhere cold so the muslims(which are not a race..... islam is a religion kiddies) don't get all rapey by seeing someone's calves.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Race Relations in America

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:50 pm

Malaysia recently banned women from putting one leg on each side of a motorbike when riding because the vibrations of the bike will cause them obscene pleasure.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Race Relations in America

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:09 am

I hear that Malaysia is one of the most boring places in the world.
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Re: Racism: Wisconsin State Fair Mob Violence

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:12 am

Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Well, its my opinion that racism is more a problem now than it was at any time in my life, and I think it's important to discuss it on a myriad of fronts.


I definitely do not. However, I do think that the blatancy of it has changed...it's become more..."sneaky". But these days, most teenagers don't even recognize race as a determining factor. It's a descriptive indicator ("see the kid next to the black kid in the red hat?"), but that's about it. That's why I believe that racism is less of a problem now.


Interesting opinion for 2011.

so.....how about now in 2015? Is racism even less of a problem?

8-)
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Re: Racism: Wisconsin State Fair Mob Violence

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:28 am

Phatscotty wrote:

I definitely do not. However, I do think that the blatancy of it has changed...it's become more..."sneaky". But these days, most teenagers don't even recognize race as a determining factor. It's a descriptive indicator ("see the kid next to the black kid in the red hat?"), but that's about it. That's why I believe that racism is less of a problem now.


Interesting opinion for 2011.

so.....how about now in 2015? Is racism even less of a problem?

8-)

PS loves his racism. 8-)


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Re: Poll on Racism

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:33 pm

He's just trying to make Woodruff come back, and I think that would be a great thing.

Would be good though, if Woodie would come back and participate in a bunch of things, not just say something nasty to Scotty and leave again.
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Re: Poll on Racism

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:45 pm

Dukasaur wrote:He's just trying to make Woodruff come back, and I think that would be a great thing.

Would be good though, if Woodie would come back and participate in a bunch of things, not just say something nasty to Scotty and leave again.



Along with JohnBlue as well. Don't tell me Andy ruined it again!

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Re: Racism: Wisconsin State Fair Mob Violence

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:49 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:

I definitely do not. However, I do think that the blatancy of it has changed...it's become more..."sneaky". But these days, most teenagers don't even recognize race as a determining factor. It's a descriptive indicator ("see the kid next to the black kid in the red hat?"), but that's about it. That's why I believe that racism is less of a problem now.


Interesting opinion for 2011.

so.....how about now in 2015? Is racism even less of a problem?

8-)

PS loves his racism. 8-)


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I know he sure as in the hell isn't talking about people like me.

I think I know what kind of people he is talking about though.

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Re: Racism: Wisconsin State Fair Mob Violence

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:53 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Well, its my opinion that racism is more a problem now than it was at any time in my life, and I think it's important to discuss it on a myriad of fronts.


I definitely do not. However, I do think that the blatancy of it has changed...it's become more..."sneaky". But these days, most teenagers don't even recognize race as a determining factor. It's a descriptive indicator ("see the kid next to the black kid in the red hat?"), but that's about it. That's why I believe that racism is less of a problem now.


Interesting opinion for 2011.


You seem to be interested in the specific arguments people are making, and whether or not you can prove them wrong. That is not the approach to intellectual improvement. Instead of focusing on what other people think, focus on seeking truth for yourself. You get stronger by looking at what a lot of different people have to say, and taking what is useful from them even if you strongly disagree with much of it. You improve at life by making your own beliefs stronger, not by attempting to tear down anyone else's.
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Re: Racism: Wisconsin State Fair Mob Violence

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:48 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Well, its my opinion that racism is more a problem now than it was at any time in my life, and I think it's important to discuss it on a myriad of fronts.


I definitely do not. However, I do think that the blatancy of it has changed...it's become more..."sneaky". But these days, most teenagers don't even recognize race as a determining factor. It's a descriptive indicator ("see the kid next to the black kid in the red hat?"), but that's about it. That's why I believe that racism is less of a problem now.


Interesting opinion for 2011.


You seem to be interested in the specific arguments people are making, and whether or not you can prove them wrong. That is not the approach to intellectual improvement. Instead of focusing on what other people think, focus on seeking truth for yourself. You get stronger by looking at what a lot of different people have to say, and taking what is useful from them even if you strongly disagree with much of it. You improve at life by making your own beliefs stronger, not by attempting to tear down anyone else's.


I saw the truth in 2011, Woodruff did not. He was still swept off his feet by a black president, he still thought electing a black president made up for white guilt and that race relations would get better and in fact he said they were better. Obviously, now much later with hindsight, we can see race relations are MUCH worse and the race relations clock TRULY has been set back generations. Even to the point of setting the clock back 150 years to where people are being shot and killed over the Confederate flag again.

It wasn't that I strongly disagreed with anything, it was that I saw falsehoods and straight up lies being perpetrated and in the light of truth and the halls of justice I spoke ABSOLUTE TRUTH!. This isn't about my 'beliefs' becoming 'stronger', it's about observing truth and trying to help others wake up out of the Matrix.

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