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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:12 pm

AgentSmith88 wrote:
(I don't envy the person who has to keep track of the scoreboard. There will likely be over 1,000 people on the scoreboard by the time the season is done.)


That would be me
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby JoshyBoy on Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:19 pm

barterer2002 wrote:
AgentSmith88 wrote:
(I don't envy the person who has to keep track of the scoreboard. There will likely be over 1,000 people on the scoreboard by the time the season is done.)


That would be me


Sound like a job for good old Blitzaholic.... :roll: :lol:
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby Huntyr Green on Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:54 pm

I understand not wanting invites. Just pondering possible benefits of earning a (theoretical) card.

What about guaranteed invites to majors and/or tourneys of a certain size (i.e., 128 and more, with, in my model, around 40 or so carded players guaranteed invites)? Or tourneys specifically for carded players (like the Players' Championship)?

There's a mechanism for offering previous winners exemptions, which is cool. I also like the idea of prolonged excellence getting some props in future seasons, though.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby Kinnison on Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:44 pm

FUTURE seasons... maybe. Let's worry about this one first. ;)
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:09 am

Hunter, there are a couple of issues with your suggestion.

1). Tournament rules require that at least 50% of all spots be open to the general public

2). I am anticipating that there will be tournaments for which not all of the regular TPA players will gain entry. This is because the TPA is designed to be a cross section of all CC tournaments and one of the backbones of CC tournaments are the 16 player bracket tournaments. We've made the concession that all TPA tournaments must be open to at least 30 players but I am reluctant to remove the small 1v1 games from the TPA.

3). Part of the issue with this first season is that I have no real idea what the response will be. Many are anticipating a great response with a hundred or more regular players however, until it actually happens I'm reluctant to plan to have that and then to find that it isn't going to be the case. I'm hopeful that it will and we can move forward into Year 2 next May with a better idea of how popular the idea is and player cards may be a part of future leagues but lets run this year first and see how we do.

4). I also would like the TPA to be inclusive, I'd like to see it bring new people into tournaments and requiring cards or whatever becomes somewhat elitist-no matter how easy the cards are to acquire.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby Huntyr Green on Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:56 pm

Huh... I wasn't aware of the 50% rule. I haven't run a tourney since an open one last year.

I guess all I'm saying is that I think TPA cards can in the future be done in such a way that allows for smaller tournaments and isn't exclusive (which, as you point out, isn't allowed). As you and Kinnison and others point out, that's at least a year away.

No worries! Looking forward to Monday! Thanks for considering and responding to my input!
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby poptartpsycho18 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:41 am

It's been so long since I started a tourney that I'm worried that my contribution won't get the numbers I hope. How long will I have to fill it and what amount of participants is considered "major"?
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby kratos644 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:34 am

poptartpsycho18 wrote:It's been so long since I started a tourney that I'm worried that my contribution won't get the numbers I hope. How long will I have to fill it and what amount of participants is considered "major"?

You'll still get the numbers poptart. You're a great T.O. :)
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby MrGlassB on Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:22 pm

I'm assuming not just anyone can slap a "(TPA)" tag on the back of their tournament title. So, what's the process for TOs that want to run a TPA tournament? Sorry if it's been stated already, I didn't see it when I read through the topic. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby jrh_cardinal on Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:43 pm

MrGlassB wrote:I'm assuming not just anyone can slap a "(TPA)" tag on the back of their tournament title. So, what's the process for TOs that want to run a TPA tournament? Sorry if it's been stated already, I didn't see it when I read through the topic. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby MrGlassB on Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:19 pm

Okay, cool. Thanks for the info. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby amazzony on Mon May 03, 2010 2:33 am

MrGlassB wrote:I'm assuming not just anyone can slap a "(TPA)" tag on the back of their tournament title. So, what's the process for TOs that want to run a TPA tournament? Sorry if it's been stated already, I didn't see it when I read through the topic. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Mon May 03, 2010 6:06 am

Part of the thing for TPA organizers is that we'd like to see a track record in tournaments. We'd like to see that you can follow through on tournaments as that's going to be very important. I do want as many organizers participating as we can get within these parameters though.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby musteriuz on Mon May 03, 2010 6:14 am

Hi guys. When will the first tourney be posted or am I in too much of a hurry as usual?
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby benga on Mon May 03, 2010 6:41 am

musteriuz wrote:Hi guys. When will the first tourney be posted or am I in too much of a hurry as usual?



there we be lack of place for all TPA hungry people
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby MrGlassB on Mon May 03, 2010 9:43 am

amazzony wrote:Get in touch with barterer2002 through PM and if you've talked about it and he confirms that you are one of the TPA organisers then let me know and I will grant you access to the TO usergroup forums :)

I'm one completed tournament away from being able to join anyways, so I have no problem waiting until then. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Mon May 03, 2010 11:43 am

It'll be up sometime today.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby HighlanderAttack on Mon May 03, 2010 1:03 pm

Link to the first event


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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby benga on Mon May 03, 2010 3:44 pm

i hope that players that sign up for TPA
and dont show/join their games
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby MrGlassB on Mon May 03, 2010 3:52 pm

Indeed. I think that's a good idea. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Mon May 03, 2010 3:58 pm

There is no signing up for the TPA. Anyone who joins any TPA sanctioned event is in the TPA itself. This is because we need to have at least 50% of the slots open to everyone.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby MrGlassB on Mon May 03, 2010 4:04 pm

Regardless of the semantics, no-shows should receive some sort of penalty imho. :)

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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon May 03, 2010 4:20 pm

barterer2002 wrote:There is no signing up for the TPA. Anyone who joins any TPA sanctioned event is in the TPA itself. This is because we need to have at least 50% of the slots open to everyone.


I think he means a penalty for people who sign up for a TPA tournament and then deadbeat or don't show up.
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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby benga on Mon May 03, 2010 4:29 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
barterer2002 wrote:There is no signing up for the TPA. Anyone who joins any TPA sanctioned event is in the TPA itself. This is because we need to have at least 50% of the slots open to everyone.


I think he means a penalty for people who sign up for a TPA tournament and then deadbeat or don't show up.



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Re: Introducing: Tournament Players Association (TPA)

Postby barterer2002 on Mon May 03, 2010 8:17 pm

I thought I posted this earlier but apparently it was somewhere else.

My general feeling is that in tournaments there are two reasons that people do not join their games. 1) they are unaware of how tournaments work and are generally not joining any more of them or 2) they have unexpectedly left CC for whatever reason. In either of these cases there doesn't seem to be much reason to penalize. Are there reasons to penalize someone that I'm not seeing?
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