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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby angola on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:26 am

Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:11 pm

I count 25 signups so far (including some who don't quite qualify). You may need to leave this open a bit longer.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:11 pm

josko.ri wrote:I suggest to change the 15 games rule from this:

1) Players A,B,C need to have 15 or more wins together

into this:

1) Players A,B,C need to have 15 or more triples wins together

OR

2) If players A,B,C have n triples wins together (n<15), they can still qualify if:

Players A,B have (15-n) or more triples wins together
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Players A,C have (15-n) or more triples wins together
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Players B,C have (15-n) or more triples wins together

If all 3 players have 15+ wins in triples game among themselves, but just do not have it achieved playing as one team but rather playing as 2 of them together and a third player, that is the same value like if they played it together.

Notice, if a triples team has never played together, that means they can still qualify with rule (2) but it means the other 45 games (15 games in combination of every player) need to be achieved.

We are accepting this proposed amendment.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Gilligan on Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:44 pm

So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby josko.ri on Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:18 pm

Thanks to Dukasaur or accepting the proposal :)

Gilligan wrote:So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.


As i worded it i will explain:

You have 12 wins together so n=12. That means you need only 3 wins (15-n) in combination of eqch of 3 players together, and your numbers are 8/15/5 so you qualify.

You would not qualify if your numbers are for example 8/15/2 because in that case SuperWang and Petter Gibbons are not eligible because they would have 14 triples wins together (12 with Gilligan and 2 with other teammate).
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby angola on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:14 am

Any answer to the question about whether it is 12 games at once?
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby shoop76 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:45 am

If its anything like the doubles its half of round 1 games then other half months later or maybe never.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby MD212 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:06 pm

Md212, danhulbert, radioman212 are in. We have 15 + wins as a trips team.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Armandolas on Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:58 am

Plase consider a couple of satellites. I volunteer to run it if its too much work for you, but plase consider it since all other Championships had some. Thanks
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby hyposquasher on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:19 pm

angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby V.J. on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:51 pm

Seamus76, Sandman175 and V.J.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby josko.ri on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:56 pm

Josko.ri, Moonchild, Rodion sign us in please. Moonchild and Rodion needs 1 more win together to be eligible, and they will make it until 10th April when the tournament starts.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:16 pm

hyposquasher wrote:
angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.

We will split the round to get only half the games at once.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby stealth99 on Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:37 pm

We'd like to play in this thing and we're not sure if we qualify so here goes:

stealth99
conquerhero
bpt777

We have 5 wins as a complete team.

stealth99 and conquerhero have 10 trips wins together.

stealth99 and bpt777 have 7 trips wins together.

bpt777 and conquerhero have 5 trips wins together.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby josko.ri on Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:01 pm

stealth99 wrote:We'd like to play in this thing and we're not sure if we qualify so here goes:

stealth99
conquerhero
bpt777

We have 5 wins as a complete team.

stealth99 and conquerhero have 10 trips wins together.

stealth99 and bpt777 have 7 trips wins together.

bpt777 and conquerhero have 5 trips wins together.

Under the rule I proposed you dont qualify. Stealth and conquerhero are eligible but bpt777 has 12 wins with stealth and 10 wins with conquerhero so he is not eligible.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more needed

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:05 pm

stealth99 wrote:We'd like to play in this thing and we're not sure if we qualify so here goes:

stealth99
conquerhero
bpt777

We have 5 wins as a complete team.

stealth99 and conquerhero have 10 trips wins together.

stealth99 and bpt777 have 7 trips wins together.

bpt777 and conquerhero have 5 trips wins together.

At present you do not qualify. I've added your names to the list, since the list as a whole is "unverified" and there may be other teams on there that do not qualify.

You might still have time to win a few more games together, although probably not on big maps or slow settings. Perhaps you could take a shot at some speed games?

It is pretty obvious that we have not made our target of 48 teams, and it is also pretty obvious that we have gone beyond the original March 31st deadline. Thus, either the deadline will be further extended, or the number of teams in the tournament will be further reduced. This is an official Webmaster-ordained tournament, so the final decision is Big Wham's, not mine.

I have worked out a plan for a new round 1 for 32 teams. At present we have 30 teams signed up, at least one of which we already know to be ineligible, so it's no more than 29. Thus, I'm marking the tournament "at least 3 more teams needed." That would get us to my revised goal of 32, although as noted my revised goal has not yet been confirmed. To get to our original goal of 48 we still need 19.

There may be other teams in the 29 who signed up without actually being eligible, so until confirming everyone on launch day we might have a lot more room than you realize.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby benga on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:11 pm

Why just not take all?

There are under 50 teams anyway, like this this will be a joke
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby hyposquasher on Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:21 pm

hyposquasher wrote:
angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.


Thanks for answering this, we qualify and would like to be in, please :)
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby angola on Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:51 pm

hyposquasher wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:
angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.


Thanks for answering this, we qualify and would like to be in, please :)


We being:

angola
jetsetwilly
hyposquasher

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:52 am

One team added, but one existing team has withdrawn. We remain three teams short.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Great-Ollie on Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:19 am

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lynch5762
jordy2425

Ok just seen we are already signed up. Sorry. Ignore me. lol
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby josko.ri on Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:42 am

josko.ri wrote:Josko.ri, Moonchild, Rodion sign us in please. Moonchild and Rodion needs 1 more win together to be eligible, and they will make it until 10th April when the tournament starts.

We are now eligible.

We have 12 wins as a triples team.

josko.ri&Moonchild have additional 86 wins together.
josko.ri&Rodion have additional 6 wins together.
Moonchild&Rodion have additional 3 wins together.


This is supposed to be the biggest triples tournament annually. However, with (maybe) 32 teams signed in, it can hardly be considered as such. I really think qualifying requirements of 15 games per player are too much, even with a little easier rule added afterwards.

I suggest that you cut down that number from 15 to 5, or even make no requirements of minimal games. However, you can then give priority to everyone who satisfies initial requirement of 15 games, and only fill remaining slots up to (hopefully) 48 with the ones who do not satisfy initial requirement, based by combined team score. That would allow every top players to be eligible for the remaining 16~18 slots and having top players signed in would serve as raising total quality of the tournament on really high level. This is big decision, but if you think how important this tournament should nominally be for CC community, then you will see that the decision is really justified. This suggestion especially applies because this tournament did not have satellites so players did not have alternative ways to qualify.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Leehar on Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:17 pm

In with maasman and lequeen.
I actually think there's not even a need for qualifying requirements. It makes sense when you have too many applicants and you need to pick the best options (eg 1v1 etc), but no sense in limiting the applications entirely.


josko.ri wrote:Thanks to Dukasaur or accepting the proposal :)

Gilligan wrote:So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.


As i worded it i will explain:

You have 12 wins together so n=12. That means you need only 3 wins (15-n) in combination of eqch of 3 players together, and your numbers are 8/15/5 so you qualify.

You would not qualify if your numbers are for example 8/15/2 because in that case SuperWang and Petter Gibbons are not eligible because they would have 14 triples wins together (12 with Gilligan and 2 with other teammate).

Wouldn't Superwing & Peter have (12+8/12+15=) 20/27 with gilligan respectively, and 2 with other teammate?
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby josko.ri on Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:22 pm

Leehar wrote:In with maasman and lequeen.
I actually think there's not even a need for qualifying requirements. It makes sense when you have too many applicants and you need to pick the best options (eg 1v1 etc), but no sense in limiting the applications entirely.


josko.ri wrote:Thanks to Dukasaur or accepting the proposal :)

Gilligan wrote:So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.


As i worded it i will explain:

You have 12 wins together so n=12. That means you need only 3 wins (15-n) in combination of eqch of 3 players together, and your numbers are 8/15/5 so you qualify.

You would not qualify if your numbers are for example 8/15/2 because in that case SuperWang and Petter Gibbons are not eligible because they would have 14 triples wins together (12 with Gilligan and 2 with other teammate).

Wouldn't Superwing & Peter have (12+8/12+15=) 20/27 with gilligan respectively, and 2 with other teammate?

No, 12 wins would be with team superwing/peter/gilligan and 2 more wins would be with superwing/peter/nonGilligan which makes superwing/peter together only 14 wins because gilligan+nonGilligan includes all combinations of third player, yet with all combinations of third player they would not have 15 wins.
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