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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more needed

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:05 pm

stealth99 wrote:We'd like to play in this thing and we're not sure if we qualify so here goes:

stealth99
conquerhero
bpt777

We have 5 wins as a complete team.

stealth99 and conquerhero have 10 trips wins together.

stealth99 and bpt777 have 7 trips wins together.

bpt777 and conquerhero have 5 trips wins together.

At present you do not qualify. I've added your names to the list, since the list as a whole is "unverified" and there may be other teams on there that do not qualify.

You might still have time to win a few more games together, although probably not on big maps or slow settings. Perhaps you could take a shot at some speed games?

It is pretty obvious that we have not made our target of 48 teams, and it is also pretty obvious that we have gone beyond the original March 31st deadline. Thus, either the deadline will be further extended, or the number of teams in the tournament will be further reduced. This is an official Webmaster-ordained tournament, so the final decision is Big Wham's, not mine.

I have worked out a plan for a new round 1 for 32 teams. At present we have 30 teams signed up, at least one of which we already know to be ineligible, so it's no more than 29. Thus, I'm marking the tournament "at least 3 more teams needed." That would get us to my revised goal of 32, although as noted my revised goal has not yet been confirmed. To get to our original goal of 48 we still need 19.

There may be other teams in the 29 who signed up without actually being eligible, so until confirming everyone on launch day we might have a lot more room than you realize.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby benga on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:11 pm

Why just not take all?

There are under 50 teams anyway, like this this will be a joke
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby hyposquasher on Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:21 pm

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angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.


Thanks for answering this, we qualify and would like to be in, please :)
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby angola on Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:51 pm

hyposquasher wrote:
hyposquasher wrote:
angola wrote:Will all 12 first round games start at once? That is a bit much for triples games.


Today is the last day to register but we are still awaiting an answer to this question from a week ago.

If the game load is reasonable we would like to sign up with angola, jetsetwilly, hyposquasher.

Would like an answer to this question, though.


Thanks for answering this, we qualify and would like to be in, please :)


We being:

angola
jetsetwilly
hyposquasher

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:52 am

One team added, but one existing team has withdrawn. We remain three teams short.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Great-Ollie on Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:19 am

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Ok just seen we are already signed up. Sorry. Ignore me. lol
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby josko.ri on Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:42 am

josko.ri wrote:Josko.ri, Moonchild, Rodion sign us in please. Moonchild and Rodion needs 1 more win together to be eligible, and they will make it until 10th April when the tournament starts.

We are now eligible.

We have 12 wins as a triples team.

josko.ri&Moonchild have additional 86 wins together.
josko.ri&Rodion have additional 6 wins together.
Moonchild&Rodion have additional 3 wins together.


This is supposed to be the biggest triples tournament annually. However, with (maybe) 32 teams signed in, it can hardly be considered as such. I really think qualifying requirements of 15 games per player are too much, even with a little easier rule added afterwards.

I suggest that you cut down that number from 15 to 5, or even make no requirements of minimal games. However, you can then give priority to everyone who satisfies initial requirement of 15 games, and only fill remaining slots up to (hopefully) 48 with the ones who do not satisfy initial requirement, based by combined team score. That would allow every top players to be eligible for the remaining 16~18 slots and having top players signed in would serve as raising total quality of the tournament on really high level. This is big decision, but if you think how important this tournament should nominally be for CC community, then you will see that the decision is really justified. This suggestion especially applies because this tournament did not have satellites so players did not have alternative ways to qualify.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Leehar on Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:17 pm

In with maasman and lequeen.
I actually think there's not even a need for qualifying requirements. It makes sense when you have too many applicants and you need to pick the best options (eg 1v1 etc), but no sense in limiting the applications entirely.


josko.ri wrote:Thanks to Dukasaur or accepting the proposal :)

Gilligan wrote:So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.


As i worded it i will explain:

You have 12 wins together so n=12. That means you need only 3 wins (15-n) in combination of eqch of 3 players together, and your numbers are 8/15/5 so you qualify.

You would not qualify if your numbers are for example 8/15/2 because in that case SuperWang and Petter Gibbons are not eligible because they would have 14 triples wins together (12 with Gilligan and 2 with other teammate).

Wouldn't Superwing & Peter have (12+8/12+15=) 20/27 with gilligan respectively, and 2 with other teammate?
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby josko.ri on Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:22 pm

Leehar wrote:In with maasman and lequeen.
I actually think there's not even a need for qualifying requirements. It makes sense when you have too many applicants and you need to pick the best options (eg 1v1 etc), but no sense in limiting the applications entirely.


josko.ri wrote:Thanks to Dukasaur or accepting the proposal :)

Gilligan wrote:So let me understand that properly -

Gilligan, SuperWang, Peter Gibbons - 12 wins together.

Gilligan and Peter Gibbons have won 8 triples games without SuperWang.
Gilligan and SuperWang have won 15 triples games without Peter Gibbons.
SuperWang and Peter Gibbons have won 5 games without Gilligan.

Does this mean that we qualify? The way I see it, part in 2) means we only need 2 wins without the other player apiece.


As i worded it i will explain:

You have 12 wins together so n=12. That means you need only 3 wins (15-n) in combination of eqch of 3 players together, and your numbers are 8/15/5 so you qualify.

You would not qualify if your numbers are for example 8/15/2 because in that case SuperWang and Petter Gibbons are not eligible because they would have 14 triples wins together (12 with Gilligan and 2 with other teammate).

Wouldn't Superwing & Peter have (12+8/12+15=) 20/27 with gilligan respectively, and 2 with other teammate?

No, 12 wins would be with team superwing/peter/gilligan and 2 more wins would be with superwing/peter/nonGilligan which makes superwing/peter together only 14 wins because gilligan+nonGilligan includes all combinations of third player, yet with all combinations of third player they would not have 15 wins.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby stealth99 on Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:44 pm

There may be other teams in the 29 who signed up without actually being eligible, so until confirming everyone on launch day we might have a lot more room than you realize.


Does this comment mean that there is further chance that the restrictions will be lowered to include us or does it mean that we may have more time to meet the restrictions?.....or neither

Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby QuikSilver on Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:35 pm

Donelladan wrote:hi, in with Momo33 and QuikSilver please.
we have 15 triples win.


Dukasaur you spelled my name uncorrect. Like donelladan said... QuikSilver with no ''c''

In your team list it's written QuickSilver... you got the wrong person! Thanks :)
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:28 am

stealth99 wrote:
There may be other teams in the 29 who signed up without actually being eligible, so until confirming everyone on launch day we might have a lot more room than you realize.


Does this comment mean that there is further chance that the restrictions will be lowered to include us or does it mean that we may have more time to meet the restrictions?.....or neither

Thanks very much for your help.

For now you're on the list. No promises, but if you are working at qualifying (ie., if you are currently playing some other games to try to qualify) that strengthens your case.

QuikSilver wrote:
Donelladan wrote:hi, in with Momo33 and QuikSilver please.
we have 15 triples win.


Dukasaur you spelled my name uncorrect. Like donelladan said... QuikSilver with no ''c''

In your team list it's written QuickSilver... you got the wrong person! Thanks :)

Fixed, thanks.

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This is supposed to be the biggest triples tournament annually. However, with (maybe) 32 teams signed in, it can hardly be considered as such. I really think qualifying requirements of 15 games per player are too much, even with a little easier rule added afterwards.

I suggest that you cut down that number from 15 to 5, or even make no requirements of minimal games. However, you can then give priority to everyone who satisfies initial requirement of 15 games, and only fill remaining slots up to (hopefully) 48 with the ones who do not satisfy initial requirement, based by combined team score. That would allow every top players to be eligible for the remaining 16~18 slots and having top players signed in would serve as raising total quality of the tournament on really high level. This is big decision, but if you think how important this tournament should nominally be for CC community, then you will see that the decision is really justified. This suggestion especially applies because this tournament did not have satellites so players did not have alternative ways to qualify.

We may further lower the requirement. I don't think it will disappear entirely.

The logic is this: it is supposed to be a contest for "teams" not for "individuals who can put together a team." In other words, teams that have been together in the long run and weren't just put together for the tournament. We know that there are strategic masterminds who can take a random group of cadets and coach them through to a win. What we're trying to find here is the best "team" on CC, in terms of people who are actually comrades, together for the long term, and have some kind of symbiotic relationship that makes them more than just a transient group. It's about the friendships and relationship that a long-term team sustains.
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby jordy2425 on Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:19 pm

The logic is this: it is supposed to be a contest for "teams" not for "individuals who can put together a team." In other words, teams that have been together in the long run and weren't just put together for the tournament. We know that there are strategic masterminds who can take a random group of cadets and coach them through to a win. What we're trying to find here is the best "team" on CC, in terms of people who are actually comrades, together for the long term, and have some kind of symbiotic relationship that makes them more than just a transient group. It's about the friendships and relationship that a long-term team sustains.[/quote]

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby antcowan on Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:51 pm

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby babagonosh on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:43 am

in with morley and ElectrickShock

Morley and I have won several doubles tourneys together and we are all 3 in the same clan so we also have some trips and quads experience. :D
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby stealth99 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:43 pm

Just an update on our team, stealth99, bpt777, conquerhero:

We have our team wins up to 10:

The next part of that equation is the problem, one of our 3 pairs of players, only has 1 extra win together.

We have 9 team games in progress, with 3 of them at this point, certain wins, that we are mopping up. This will bring our team total to 13, plus the 1 win that each of our pairs of players has, leaves us just one short. We still have many games pending.

We would be able to very easily accept pretty well any condition or requirement, in a fairly short period of time.

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby RKCVED on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:12 pm

In Please with zips5000 and jackal31
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:08 pm

babagonosh wrote:in with morley and ElectrickShock

Morley and I have won several doubles tourneys together and we are all 3 in the same clan so we also have some trips and quads experience. :D

By morley I assume you mean morleyjoe?

I'm just taking a quick look at your games. I see wins together with you and morleyjoe but none with ElectrickShock. You have plenty of wins with alstergren though. I haven't added it up, but it might even be enough to qualify. Why don't you persuade alstergren to play?
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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby Mishalex on Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:35 am

In with Arno30 and Betiko please

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Re: The Championships - Triples at least 3 more teams needed

Postby dchide01 on Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:11 pm

In please

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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:44 pm

Registration is now closed.

(team score shown as of 1900 hrs on April 22nd):

The following teams have qualified by the original rules:
1,hayesez,Veni Vici Vidi,Culham,10351
2,PROFITS,BRADDY,TheProwler,9483
3,loutil,Agent 86,Blitzkrieg Frank,8315
4,prismsaber,Foxglove,agonzos,8123
5,umbrellaman,evildoer,generalahole
6,TX AG 90,hutchkov,geko,7798
7,RKCVED,zips5000,jackal31,7597
8,sdh,hmsps,sekretar,7597
9,ckyrias,dana1971,Epitaph1,7362
10,dakky21,benga,Hannibal 19,7059
11,OutSider,RobbieDub,mrfitz66,6968
12,xman5151,alaskanassassin,akabob2,6928
13,shoop76,SpiteMalice,Tin Trumpet,6910
14,pearljamrox2,WPBRJ,hotfire,6894
15,Donelladan,Momo33,QuikSilver,6769
16,Bigroo4601,aaronvollrath,hambone,6734
17,ooge,cjtails,Slaylark,6645
18,blonderic,Alexlau,Cascades,6502
19,MD212,danhulbert,radioman212,5813
20,lordlau1,rjhankey,Leverpuller,5790
21,Seamus76,sandman175,V.J.,5573
22,sccoxx,ltndvm,JJ41375,4817

The following teams have qualified by the "15-n" modified rule:
23,angola,jetsetwilly,hyposquasher,8990
25,josko.ri,Moonchild,Rodion,10130
27,stealth99,conquerhero,bpt777,5567
30,jordy2425,Great-Ollie,lynch5762,8008
32,Mishalex,arno30,betiko,6973
34,Gilligan,SuperWang,Peter Gibbons,5801

The following teams failed to qualify:
24,Aussie02,conrwronski,therealdeal_37,6738,0,Fail,Not enough games with partner (2),,
26,babagonosh,morleyjoe,ElectrickShock,6216,0,Fail,Not enough games with partner (0),,
28,Bobby4254,DetroitSteel,eric111213,5470,0,Fail,Not enough games with partner (10),,
31,dchide01,Ezlok,jakael02,3335,0,Fail,Not enough games with partner (2),,
33,slickstick,nibotha,Arya,6611,,Fail,Not enough games with partner (12),,

OP has been updated with a revised schedule for 28 teams.

The beginning of the tournament is imminent.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Bobby4254 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:30 pm

I thought we had made it with the new rules, but I guess my math is off. Thanks for the effort you put into the tournaments. We will try again in another one.
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby sccoxx on Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:06 pm

This was just in my tournament listing, but it disappeared. Did the tourney get cancelled?
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Re: The Championships - Triples

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:25 pm

sccoxx wrote:This was just in my tournament listing, but it disappeared. Did the tourney get cancelled?

I found out that I had made a mistake. I thought we had exactly 28 qualifying teams, but it turned out that I've had too many late nights, and it was actually 29. So, the lowest-ranking team -- yours -- got dropped. My apologies for the mistake.
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