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by **AmphibiousRodent** on Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:16 am

Top 25 heading into Week 13

NO. TEAM, CONF., W-L, RPI
1. Michigan State Spartans, Big Ten, 9-1, 0.753
2. Brigham Young Cougars, Ind., 11-0, 0.748
3. Iowa State Cyclones, Big-12, 10-0, 0.740
4. Ohio State Buckeyes, Big Ten, 10-1, 0.712
5. Ball State Cardinals, MAC, 10-1, 0.686
6. Louisiana Tech Bulldogs, WAC, 9-2, 0.653
7. Colorado State Rams, MWC, 8-2, 0.649
8. Air Force Falcons, MWC, 9-2, 0.644
9. Missouri Tigers, Big-12, 8-2, 0.639
10. Tulsa Golden Hurricane, C-USA, 8-2, 0.615
11. Buffalo Bulls, MAC, 8-2, 0.610
12. Duke Blue Devils, ACC, 9-2, 0.607
13. Kansas State Wildcats, Big-12, 7-3, 0.598
14. Michigan Wolverines, Big Ten, 9-2, 0.595
15. North Carolina Tar Heels, ACC, 9-2, 0.590
16. Boise State Broncos, MWC, 5-5, 0.583
17. Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders, Sun Belt, 7-2, 0.582
18. South Carolina Gamecocks, SEC, 8-3, 0.578
19. UNLV Rebels, MWC, 6-4, 0.576
20. Wyoming Cowboys, MWC, 7-3, 0.574
21. Florida Atlantic Owls, Sun Belt, 6-3, 0.574
22. Houston Cougars, C-USA, 8-2, 0.573
23. Stanford Cardinal, PAC-12, 6-3, 0.569
24. Vanderbilt Commadores, SEC, 7-3, 0.566
25. Central Michigan Chippewas, MAC, 8-4, .561

On the cusp: USC (7-2), Notre Dame (6-5), Southern Miss (8-3), Arkansas State (7-3).

by **buck6969** on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:00 am

Huge rivalry game this week #12 Duke @ #15 UNC. The winner goes to the ACC championship game.

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:46 pm

Since we don't seem to be drawing interest in any more replacements, would anyone be interested in finishing the games of UTEP or Oregon?

by **blindman30** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:59 am

if you need someone to fill in for games I would. Would keep same settings they had also.

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:25 am

I have blindman30 taking over Oregon, and if nobody wants to play out UTEP's games I'll those to him as well. Should blindman pull off a miracle against several ranked teams and take Oregon to 6-6, I won't send him to a bowl.

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:06 am

We have a few huge games this week. Here are a six that will directly affect league championships:

#12 Duke at #15 North Carolina -- This is for the ACC Coastal Division title.
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#3 Iowa State at #13 Kansas State -- Iowa State needs the win to clinch the Big-12.
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#4 Ohio State at #14 Michigan State -- OSU has clinched its division title, but MSU needs this one to win the other division.
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#22 Houston at #10 Tulsa -- this is for the C-USA West title.
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Toledo at #5 Ball State -- If Toledo wins, Central Michigan takes the MAC West.
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#8 Air Force at #7 Colorado State -- Air Force could clinch the Mountain West here. If CSU wins, they'll still have to survive one last game against Wyoming.
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Teams that have clinched:
ACC Atlantic: Florida State (8-3, 5-3)
Big Ten Leaders: Ohio State (10-1, 6-1)
C-USA East: Southern Miss (8-3, 5-1)
SEC East: South Carolina (8-3, 5-2)

by **flexmaster33** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:14 am

I'll jump in for UTEP...you shouldn't have to do that as a freebie rodent

by **Frito Bandito** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:27 am

arrrgh! WSU over the Utes 39-22

p.s.- I'll step in for somebody outside the Pac-12

by **flexmaster33** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:30 pm

stack up another loss for the Boise State Broncos, whose swan dive continues. Coaching rumors are starting.

by **callmecommander** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:37 pm

how come 2 undefeated teams are below a 9-1 team. I don't mean to complain. You're doing a great job, and USM is extremely excited to have clinched the division, but my ballot has BYU #1 and Michigan state #3

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:59 pm

Looks like the only difference is strength of schedule:
Team, adj w%, SOS (%), v. T25
MSU, .909, 66-54 (.550), 3-0
BYU, .986, 45-84 (.349), 4-0
ISU, .970, 55-64 (.462), 2-0

Keep in mind that MSU's only loss was to Michigan, which is 9-2 and #14 at the moment. Nobody on BYU's schedule is currently ranked, while two of ISU's are. This season has been a learning experience as far as how to run a ranking formula. I think next year's formula will be more accurate.

by **callmecommander** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:20 am

didn't realize that. I feel like that would put ISU in front of BYU then. I don't know. I've enjoyed the tourney immensely though.

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:07 pm

For those of you that are looking toward conference championship games, they will be played on the USA regional map most closely associated with that conference, with no duplication.

ACC: USA New England
Big Ten: USA Great Lakes
C-USA: USA
MAC: USA Rockies
PAC-12: USA West (or USA Southwest)
SEC: USA Southeast

by **AmphibiousRodent** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:31 pm

News update: Iowa State's Week 11 game against Oklahoma finally ended with a 6-3 upset by the Sooners. That means Iowa State's game this week against Kansas State is now for the league championship. A KState win would create a 3-way tie atop the Big-12 standings, but both ISU and KSU hold a tiebreaker over Missouri (Iowa State won 37-34 in Week 7 and Kansas State won 30-29 in Week 6). These are exciting times in the Big-12.

EDIT: I just looked again, and it looks like Kansas State's Week 12 game will end in a Texas upset over KSU. So that will throw a wrench in the works. I guess things aren't as clear as I thought.

Iowa State's loss means BYU is the only remaining undefeated team left. Michigan State, Iowa State and Ball State all have one loss, and everyone else has two or more.

Also, #14 Michigan's 28-23 win over #4 Ohio State this week means #1 Michigan State will not play in the Big Ten championship game.

by **agentcom** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:38 pm

AmphibiousRodent wrote:Looks like the only difference is strength of schedule:
Team, adj w%, SOS (%), v. T25
MSU, .909, 66-54 (.550), 3-0
BYU, .986, 45-84 (.349), 4-0
ISU, .970, 55-64 (.462), 2-0

Keep in mind that MSU's only loss was to Michigan, which is 9-2 and #14 at the moment. Nobody on BYU's schedule is currently ranked, while two of ISU's are. This season has been a learning experience as far as how to run a ranking formula. I think next year's formula will be more accurate.

Can't wait to see next year's tourney. I plan to still be around. I know I asked about the criteria for keeping coaching jobs a while back, and you're answer was 4 wins or something like that. Just want to give you a heads up that I believe tourney rules state that you can't reserve spots for over 50% of the field (i.e. half of the tournament has to be open to public sign up). Might pose a problem if you're allowing losing coaches to automatically be in next year's tournament.

Great tourney so far.