MrPipes wrote:I think there is bright-line between inclusive vs exclusive groups that the policy could easily cover that does not lend itself to discrimination. I think a Girls only Tourney is a great idea that is intended to bring clearly a minority group into the spotlight and feel a bit more welcomed. Other ideas would be a Newbies tourney would be fun for new folks. I get that some folk like to talk tough but that does offend some so there could be NoHoldsBarred Tourney where you truly attempt to crawl under the opponent skin to rattle their strategy...but the rules need to be clear going in...The purpose is to be inclusive of like minded souls not exclusive. There is no way to make it fair...to say anything goes will offend some but others may not want to be part of it...in the long run...it is good for CC. Would getting more women to join CC in a way that made them feel more welcome be good for CC...I would say yes. Would a tourney that was for Blue Eyed White Males only be good for CC...likely not. So there is no hard fast rule that can be applied...but cc does need to evolve and grow. I can see a Male vs Female tourney being a fun thing too. We'll...those are my thoughts for today...Cheers to all! -pipes
Denise wrote:Sure there are lots of tournaments to choose from, but we need to make sure to keep it so as much as possible. The requirements that are now allowed do not discriminate, because anyone can become an officer, become a clan member, improve their rating, etc. The difference here is that if someone can't change their gender, race, etc., it should not be easy to make that a tournament requirement.
Denise wrote:That said, I agree with Lx. The rules should not be changed, but exceptions made when appropriate.
dazerazer wrote:We do not have user groups allowed based on religion.
squishyg wrote:Hey look, a minority wants something! Let's create rules to make it harder for them to get what they want! In the interest of fairness, naturally.
Hey look, a minority wants something! Let's ignore current rules and guidelines in order to give them special treatment over any other group, minority or not, so they can get what they want! In the interest of fairness, naturally.
dazerazer wrote:Were you guys raised by wolves? What kind of gentlemen acts this way? There is NOTHING wrong with treating women with the respect they deserve! Plus with us being such a small few, what is the harm here? There are exceptions made for international tourneys. Why must you fight tooth and nail to prevent the women from feeling a little bit special on a male dominated and male-centric site? Oh... I guess that would be why. This is a male-centric site and you guys want to keep all aspects of it that way. I get it.
dazerazer wrote:Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl.
chapcrap wrote:dazerazer wrote:Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl.
This is true. I know someone that made her name specifically masculine so that people who she player with would think she was a man.
That being said, what can I do to get my wife (cardinal.baby) to play more?
dazerazer wrote:Look, I just wanted to start a tournament to make the women of CC feel welcome as well as to give them an outlet to meet other ladies on CC.
dazerazer wrote:Far too often women come to the site and then just leave unceremoniously because they are not comfortable here or feel isolated or intimidated
Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl. Obviously there are some who will disagree but we all know how things are most of the time with most of the players.
dazerazer wrote:Although we keep throwing the word "minority" around, there is a huge distinction between male vs. female and other minorities.
If CC would embrace that, I truly feel like there is a HUGE opportunity for exponential growth.
dazerazer wrote:Tripitaka, whats your problem? Seriously... what has you so bent that you feel it necessary to pick apart my statements? I mean no harm here so what's with the animosity? Relax.
chapcrap wrote:There aren't a lot of women on any online gaming site. I don't think CC does anything worse than anywhere else. I think it's just the style of the site that lends itself to having more men than women.
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