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Postby BaldAdonis on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:44 am

Fruitcake wrote:Not quite, and the first player could never take more than 2 terries....

start=3 per terry, so the first player places 4 armies on one terry. Same player takes terry 1, loses 3 in attack, has to leave one behind, so moves 3 in. this now means just 4 on the next attacking terry against 3, so has to use armies from another surrounding terry to reduce to 2 before attacking, then takes. great, but player then has 3 terries with just 1 army on each.


If this ever gets implemented (which it won't, it's been suggested and rejected because it doesn't make sense), sign me up for a hundred games against you. You're forgetting that you start with more than one territory, so there are support troops scattered around the map. It would be very unlikely to come up with a drop where you CAN'T take 3 territories and not leave any singles exposed.
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:44 am

a simple answer: NO

the dice are the heart of the game, it wouldn't be fun anymore if there wasn't a sort of risk to it, and what would you do in cases like 11 vs 10, i won a roll like this without losing any armies with you solution it would have resulted in losing all my armies. but what about the crazy attack: 20 vs 33? 5 vs 9?

I disagree, dice are not at the heart of the game, strategy is.
your examples:
11v10, that is why strategy would be more important.
20v33? 5vs9, I think the pertinant word is 'crazy'
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:47 am

If this ever gets implemented (which it won't, it's been suggested and rejected because it doesn't make sense), sign me up for a hundred games against you. You're forgetting that you start with more than one territory, so there are support troops scattered around the map. It would be very unlikely to come up with a drop where you CAN'T take 3 territories and not leave any singles exposed.


have you played a no dice game?
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Postby owenshooter on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:48 am

i want a poll, damnit!!! where is the poll!! a guy as clever as you are, and you can't figure out how to add a poll?!! get with it fruity!!!-0
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:52 am

Further to the no dice thread. Give your vote.

Remember, this is as an option, it does not mean you have to play it.
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:54 am

err, sorry owen, slight cock up in the brain department there....done...perhaps one the mighty mods could tie these 2 together.
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Postby Mr Unbeatable on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:56 am

I love the idea as i think the dice play too much of a role in deciding the winner of a game. Got my support. :wink:
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Postby owenshooter on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:58 am

Mr Unbeatable wrote:I love the idea as i think the dice play too much of a role in deciding the winner of a game. Got my support. :wink:


yeah, dice deciding the game in a BOARD GAME is just ridiculous... ahem...-0

p.s.-where is the poll?!!!
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Postby owenshooter on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:59 am

is this merged yet? ha!! you are killing me today fruity!!! let me cast my vote... oh wait, since we cast the dice, maybe i shouldn't use that term...-0
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Postby wacicha on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:03 am

I believe this belongs here
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:04 am

mailed the mighty wicked to ask for it to be merged owen, just for you
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:07 am

Thanks wacicha, still learning about this forum....and how.
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Postby jiminski on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:42 am

owenshooter wrote:i want a poll, damnit!!! where is the poll!! a guy as clever as you are, and you can't figure out how to add a poll?!! get with it fruity!!!-0


Agreed!


Personally i instinctively don;t like the idea but you make some good points.

For me it would mean that a good lump of the emotion and drama would be taken out of the game.
Imagine Formula one without the crashes! Sheese that would be like watching pants go around in a washing machine.

Imagine in Football if every decision, in every game were correct and decided by flawless computers which measured every movement.
It would take away a huge portion of the injustice which keeps us all talking in pubs and coming back for more. The game requires a good but imperfect referee. Our 'Random' dice serve as our flawed adjudicator.


The element of luck keeps the best players trying and the worst interested.
If people wanted purely a battle of unadulterated wits, CC would stand for Chess Club!
The dice act as a cushion to soften the acceptance of our intellectual inadequacies and a brake on our cognitive bravura.

In short by taking away the dice you fundamentally alter the dynamics and essence of the game.

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Postby yeti_c on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:48 am

Right here's a question...

If both sides lose the same amount of armies - what happens when it's 2 or 3 vs 1...

Who wins?

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Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:00 am

Worst idea ever.
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Postby jiminski on Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:14 am

I am all for it!

that way when it is merged i can't be wrong!
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Postby BaldAdonis on Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:28 am

Fruitcake wrote:have you played a no dice game?

Yeah, all the time, right after I play tic-tac-toe, connect four, and my other favourite predetermined games. Then I pick up a rock and drop it to see if it will fall: I still think someday it won't.
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Postby insomniacdude on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:12 am

Audax wrote:
Why is this in GD?
It's been discussed 2034804823 times, and people don't believe it should be implemented because it cuts away from the actual "Risk" aspect of the game.


Apart from the obviously silly number which has nothing positive, I fail to undertstand hwo you can say this. How many threads appear on this forum about the dice????????


Based on your low post count I'm going to assume that you don't check the forums a whole lot.

I've seen more threads about dice then on any other subject even kind-of sort-of maybe relevant to CC.
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Postby BaldAdonis on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:13 am

insomniacdude wrote:Based on your low post count I'm going to assume that you don't check the forums a whole lot.

I've seen more threads about dice then on any other subject even kind-of sort-of maybe relevant to CC.

(Pssst... I think that's his point)
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Postby insomniacdude on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:18 am

BaldAdonis wrote:
insomniacdude wrote:Based on your low post count I'm going to assume that you don't check the forums a whole lot.

I've seen more threads about dice then on any other subject even kind-of sort-of maybe relevant to CC.

(Pssst... I think that's his point)


Shush you. :x
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Postby BaldAdonis on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:20 am

insomniacdude wrote:
BaldAdonis wrote:
insomniacdude wrote:Based on your low post count I'm going to assume that you don't check the forums a whole lot.

I've seen more threads about dice then on any other subject even kind-of sort-of maybe relevant to CC.

(Pssst... I think that's his point)


Shush you. :x

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Postby MrBenn on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:30 am

Fruitcake wrote:
a simple answer: NO

the dice are the heart of the game, it wouldn't be fun anymore if there wasn't a sort of risk to it, and what would you do in cases like 11 vs 10, i won a roll like this without losing any armies with you solution it would have resulted in losing all my armies. but what about the crazy attack: 20 vs 33? 5 vs 9?

I disagree, dice are not at the heart of the game, strategy is.
your examples:
11v10, that is why strategy would be more important.
20v33? 5vs9, I think the pertinant word is 'crazy'


Actually,the pertinent word is RISK!
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Postby THE ARMY on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:39 am

You are an awesome dude Fruitcake and a brilliant man, BUT i have to say no. As much as those dice have been little pieces of dog $#!T and horse $#!T and cow $#!T and poo and stupid little guys that i absolutely hate cuz it seems i get screwed so many times and aaahhhhhhh, i just hate those little things! I have to say revise it a bit, the no dice game is a thought but it would be too simple as soon as i thought about it i thought, "oh this would be a fair game, but then i said you know what no it wouldn't" it would be too simple to take over countries. It would be so easy to look at how many armies someone has on the board and map out victory, especially in an escalating game (where i got screwed by the dice so many times). It is a good idea but i think it need revising.
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Postby JACKAZZTJM on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:45 am

Give us a poll god dammit so we can run this idea into the ground i hate it dice are essential
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Postby JACKAZZTJM on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:50 am

mighty wicked?
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