Operation Drug War [Quenched]

[InkL0sed]

I don't like the Sector Labels... too much going on in one space.

[edbeard]

yep. that's why we're going to change them.



mibi, care to clarify which font you're talking about?

the territory labels, the legend, or the sector label text?

I think you're talking about the territory label text, but I'm not sure. We're going to use the legend font for the territory labels so that will probably solve that problem (if that's the one you meant).

[mibi]

yep. that's why we're going to change them.



mibi, care to clarify which font you're talking about?

the territory labels, the legend, or the sector label text?

I think you're talking about the territory label text, but I'm not sure. We're going to use the legend font for the territory labels so that will probably solve that problem (if that's the one you meant).

STASH looks like ST ASH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

[edbeard]

thanks! I went to that page when you mentioned it. But, like I said, that text will be changed most likely.

Also, here's the XML. I haven't done the centering, but I'm hoping Lanyards still will do that.



Edit: updated XML below. errors fixed.

SENDSPACE LINK TO XML

[edbeard]

What you need to know:

1. This is an objective map. Four different ones that all include holding the main stash.
2. There are 24 starting territories. Everything starts neutral except the 8 patrol cars, the 4 corner bosses, the 4 runners, the 4 corner junkies, the 4 counters.
That's 4*4 + 8 = 16 + 8 = 24
3. There are 35 other territories that start out as neutral
4. Number of neutrals on those territories has yet to be determined. But, I have provide an example image of what it could be below.


Just done:

1. Redid legend to make sector bonuses and labels clear (note that there is no bonus for Stash House and this ? will be removed)

2. Two examples of new fonts for territory labels. I prefer the transparent version in the Supply sector.



To do:

1. Stick-up man

changing from a Lorry to a pickup truck

2. finalize neutral values

3. finish art on all territories

4. pick a territory label font



Here's an example of what I think the neutrals should be.

2 neutrals on all non-starting territories except 4 on those territories needed for an objective and 6 on the Main Stash which is needed for all objectives.

[oaktown]

Clearly you've put some thought into the play, so I'll leave you to it.

The success of this map will depend upon the legend making perfect sense in this map, as it will could a challenge for some of our international players. The addition of the inset block is helpful. I recognize that the legend is still a work in progress, so my apologies if t everything I say is unnecessary, but here are some little things that i see:

"Can attack the similar symbols" - Lose the word "the".

Colons before each +X would make it cleaner in my opinion... "5 patrols: +4"

"Stick-up-man" looks funny with two hyphens. I'd drop the second one. Meanwhile, does "autodeploy" also need a hyphen? My guess would be yes.

I think it's worth giving stick-up man two lines, like so:
Stick-up Man may bombard any stash
+2 deployed on Stick-up Man each turn

The "leader/2nd" isn't consistent with "commissioner and lieutentant... I think I'd give them both an ampersand (&). Also, consider capitalizing each title in the legend so they stand out.

"Junkie and stash from 1 sector +1"
It might be better to say "Junkie and stash in same sector: +1"

Likewise with the other lines that use the "1" twice.

[edbeard]

thanks for that Oaktown. We'll implement those in the next update (I hope). One thing to clarify though, we had Leader/2nd because it was an or. We'll change this to Leader or 2nd.


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I've been thinking that the Patrol are 1/3 of the starting territories. In 1v1 games, this is probably going to be an area of huge importance

Though, I think the optimal game size for this will be 3, 4 and 5, it's important to make sure it's not completely fucked for other game types.



So, what are people's thoughts on the 5 Patrols: +4 bonus ?


I think this could be better served for holding all Patrols. So, I'm proposing a "All Patrols: +8" Bonus. Too high?

[edbeard]

v7
v6
v5


What you need to know

1. This is an objective map. Four different ones that all include holding the main stash.
2. There are 24 starting territories. Everything starts neutral except the 8 patrol cars, the 4 corner bosses, the 4 runners, the 4 corner junkies, the 4 counters.
That's 4*4 + 8 = 16 + 8 = 24
3. There are 35 other territories that start out as neutral
4. Number of neutrals on those territories has yet to be determined. Proposed 2 on all with the exceptions of 4 on objective territories and 6 on Main Stash


Just done:

1. Fixed legend errors / made things more clear

2. Put new font on territory labels



To do:

1. Stick-up man

changing from a Lorry to a pickup truck

2. finalize neutral values

3. finish art on all territories

4. Thorough gameplay discussion

[edbeard]

v8
v7
v6
v5


What you need to know

1. This is an objective map. Four different ones that all include holding the main stash.
2. There are 24 starting territories. Everything starts neutral except the 8 patrol cars, the 4 corner bosses, the 4 runners, the 4 corner junkies, the 4 counters.
That's 4*4 + 8 = 16 + 8 = 24
3. There are 35 other territories that start out as neutral
4. Number of neutrals on those territories has yet to be determined. Proposed 2 on all with the exceptions of 4 on objective territories and 6 on Main Stash


Just done:

1. changed a few bits of art

2. Put new font on all territory labels



To do:

1. finalize neutral values

2. finish art on all territories

3. Thorough gameplay discussion

[gimil]

Edbeard would you consider color coordianting the legends to there represneted terrritory names? This may make identifing bonuses, objective etc easier.

[edbeard]

I'll send a message to Telvannia about colour coordination. See what he has to say.

But, before I do that, what about colour coordinating by territory labels? I don't want to take away too much from the art Telvannia has done, and unless it's just territory label colours that are coordinated, I think we're taking away from what he's done.

All the coordinated labels would be filled in as opposed to the clear ones we have now.

Boss and Muscle would have the same colours. Black text.

Counter and Runner could have Yellow text.

Junkie could have Blue text

Stash would have Blue and yellow text because it's part of both bonuses.


I'm not sure about colour coordinating all the objectives though. I mean you take a look at what the objectives are and look around the map. It's easy to see that there are two territories in each of the top, bottom, left, and right sectors.

[Mr_Adams]

looks to much like prohibition to me... something more original...

[laci_mae]

In contrast, I believe this map is incredibly original, as well as graphically exceptional. It does have similarities to the Prohibition map, but then again World has similarities to Classic.

Is the top left territory in the Supply sector supposed to have a name & circle? It could be "Scales" or "Sorter".

Keep up the good work. I look forward to this landing in the Final Forge soon.

Best,
LMR

[edbeard]

looks to much like prohibition to me... something more original...

this gave me a good laugh


that territory is called Supplier. Obviously, it's a bit hidden. We'll look into moving it or maybe we should just scrap the clear font.

[laci_mae]

that territory is called Supplier. Obviously, it's a bit hidden. We'll look into moving it or maybe we should just scrap the clear font.

I looked at previous versions, and now see the issue.

The supplier label is fine. However, the area with the table and chair appears to be a separate, unnamed territory. In previous versions, this was clearly one territory.

Best,
LMR