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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:27 am

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Total Territories: 36
Total Regions: 9
Bonuses: The territories marked in yellow are the regions' capitals. The bonuses for holding them are as follows; 4 = +1, 5 = +2, 6 = +3, 9 = +5.
Impassable Objects: Rivers and Mountains
Map Sizes: Small (614x590), Large (750x721)

Version 1.21 - Added shadow to the San Marinese coin
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Version 1.20 - New torri bonus images, Borgo Maggiore bonus down to 5
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Version 1.19 - New format for the title and redesign of the map legend and bonus boxes.
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Version 1.18d - New rivers, added bridge between Chiesnuova and Fiorentino, replaced mountains between Faetano and Domagnano with a river, made Faetano slightly darker.
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Version 1.18a - New rivers and towers
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Version 1.16 - New regional borders, new rivers, new mini map, added regions to mini map, moved tre torri bonus
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/Ruben_Cassar/SanMarino116.jpg

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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby RjBeals on Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:54 am

I love it already & way to go Ruben for another map! Malta was a fine addition. I love all the small bonus regions on a 36 territ map. Cool ocean - is this the direction your headed for the water/background? Cool colors, although you may need to switch the greens up a bit as without a minimap for a legend, people may get confused. And I know you are working on the borders, but as you know - it's a huge deal here. Your territ borders look great, but th main outer is a bit jagged.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:01 am

looks like germany to me
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:01 am

RjBeals wrote:I love it already & way to go Ruben for another map! Malta was a fine addition. I love all the small bonus regions on a 36 territ map. Cool ocean - is this the direction your headed for the water/background? Cool colors, although you may need to switch the greens up a bit as without a minimap for a legend, people may get confused. And I know you are working on the borders, but as you know - it's a huge deal here. Your territ borders look great, but th main outer is a bit jagged.


Thanks RJ.

I might actually add a mini map if it make things clearer although perhaps two of the green shades are a bit too similar and need changing.

Actually the background is not the sea...I just wanted to add something with a light green shade to be pleasing on the eye.

How can I fix the outer edge of the main border? Any suggestions?

I was also thinking of adding a regional capital for all of the 9 territories and give bonuses when you hold like 6 or more but I don't know if that would detract from the gameplay. Perhaps I'll make a poll on that one. E.g.: 6 cap +1, 7 cap +2, 8 cap +3 and all cap +5.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:02 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:looks like germany to me


Hehe that's interesting. Care to elaborate a bit more on what you mean exactly? Also is this a bad thing or a good thing?
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby RjBeals on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:06 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:Actually the background is not the sea...I just wanted to add something with a light green shade to be pleasing on the eye.

Duh - I knew that.. I must have still been thinking Malta in my head. I have San Marino on my own Italy map! But I do like the background. As far as the outer borders - let me think about it. I'll post something soon.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby Ogrecrusher on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:51 am

I love the look. But I think some surrounding land would be good to give some context. It looks a little like an Island right now :)
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:00 pm

Ogrecrusher wrote:I love the look. But I think some surrounding land would be good to give some context. It looks a little like an Island right now :)


I know what you mean. If there had been two or more countries surrounding it I would have gone for that option, but San Marino is totally engulfed by Italy. Don't think it makes much sense in this case.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby t-o-m on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:20 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:looks like germany to me

lol

great 1st draft, this will go far me hopes, i love the malta map aswel ;)

i like the 'green' theme
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:35 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:looks like germany to me


Hehe that's interesting. Care to elaborate a bit more on what you mean exactly? Also is this a bad thing or a good thing?

Well i like germany exept the grapgics, but i dont like these graphics much either much but meh
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:56 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
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sam_levi_11 wrote:looks like germany to me


Hehe that's interesting. Care to elaborate a bit more on what you mean exactly? Also is this a bad thing or a good thing?

Well i like germany exept the grapgics, but i dont like these graphics much either much but meh


Hehe seems like you're a difficult person to please Sam! :p

Germany is being revamped maybe you'll like it more now.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:09 pm

Ok I posted another update. Let me know what you think about the special bonuses guys.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby RjBeals on Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:30 pm

I'm not really for the bonus regions. Personally I would never try to capture all capitals. I would go for the bonus region and then start to fort and attack out. And.. The plain tahoma text wth a 1px stroke (black / white) worked for the malta map very well, but it looks too fake here.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:19 pm

I cant see the map, but the comments say they're good!

edit: nvm, it works now that i opened the image in a new tab.

Looks good so far! The only things i dont like are the mts, they are kind of small. That's really a personal preference though, so it really doesnt bother me too much.
Its also kind of hard to see the borders in Citta di San Marino because of the dark texture and faded borders.

I like the nice, simple, crisp style! :)
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby t-o-m on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:58 am

yea about the mountains, they looks good, but they dont really resemble normal mountains, i.e varying in size a lil bit or what ever,

but this is only a second draft and it looks fantastic!

good work =D> :)
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:57 am

Ok guys I have an updated version ready which I will probably post later on today. I added the mini map and bonus legend.

I am reading your comments and evaluating them but I will see what other people have to say before making any other changes.

1. About the mountains it shouldn't be a problem to make them bigger. Waiting for more feedback from other users.

2. The font can be easily changed. Personally I don't mind it but I'll wait for feedback from other people to see what to do.

3. The bonuses. I have been thinking a lot about them. I think I'll keep them. I believe that they add a new element to the map. Many of the territories are small and easy to hold. However a player can make a comeback perhaps if he manages to hold the yellow territories even though he doesn't have a regional bonus and this adds another strategic element to the game. Also the fact that you need at least 6 of them to get a 1 unit bonus prevents the yellow territories bonus from being a random thing but something that a player must work for. If anything my question is this...does the bonus starting from 6 territories seem too harsh and perhaps needs to be lowered to 4 or 5 or is it fine as it is? Again waiting for more comments.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08

Postby RjBeals on Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:14 am

I like the mountains. They do not need to resemble real mountains - these kind of feel more like game board pieces, but its still cool. My vote is to keep them as is (or close to it).
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby t-o-m on Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:21 am

RjBeals wrote:I like the mountains. They do not need to resemble real mountains - these kind of feel more like game board pieces, but its still cool. My vote is to keep them as is (or close to it).

i also dont mind them, but at this stage you need not worry about them too much,

Ruben Cassar wrote:However a player can make a comeback perhaps if he manages to hold the yellow territories even though he doesn't have a regional bonus and this adds another strategic element to the game.

i think that would make it fairer, because no1 can say "i got a bad start" coz theyre bound to be near/holding a yellow terit and maybe a chance at a cont, basically i think that might balence it out (or it might not :P)
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby bryguy on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:35 am

Pros:

Good Bonus'
Its an actual place (i think)
The territory lines are O.K

Cons

The background sucks (sorry)
There doesnt seem to be a need for that stamp-like-thing in the corner, it just takes up room
There seems to be extra unused room that u could get rid of
The lakes/mountains arent that graphically appealing
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby bryguy on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:36 am

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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby cena-rules on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:41 am

This is a really nice map but you have a river through the middle of a terr and its wierd and will be rather confusing
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:26 am

cena-rules wrote:This is a really nice map but you have a river through the middle of a terr and its wierd and will be rather confusing


Yes, but the actual river is located in that location.

I will add bridges so that there won't be any confusion. Remember this is still not finished, but thanks for pointing that out.

Besides as a side note every CC player should get BOB. It's great and it solves these kind of problems with maps.

On a separate note the free space will be used and yes San Marino is an actual place. It's in the Italian peninsula.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby gimil on Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:29 am

Ruben its nice to see you back in teh foundry again mate :)

I remeber you where the reason I got portugal so far.
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:31 am

gimil wrote:Ruben its nice to see you back in teh foundry again mate :)

I remeber you where the reason I got portugal so far.


Hehe thanks mate. I am glad I was of assistance on that one. Portugal is a lovely map I must say.

I have been busy these past months. Just finished my thesis and have my final university exams coming up in early June. I will have a bit more free time from mid June onwards to dedicate to CC. ;)
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Re: Repubblica di San Marino - Updated: 17.04.08 - Map on page 1

Postby t-o-m on Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:39 am

i dont like the thing that the mini map/bonus key is on, i dont like the slant, it looks quickly done and rushed that bit does

other wise it v gdgd well done :)
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