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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Herakilla on Thu May 15, 2008 10:47 pm

dustn64 wrote:Once this gets done, I expect tons of power hungry members will create tons of clans.


true but i dont think itll be a problem due to the requirements and if need be lack can always raise the requirements to prevent this
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri May 16, 2008 7:06 pm

After I finish up some duties (which may take a few hours :D) I'll see if I can make sense of it all again.


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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby yeti_c on Sat May 17, 2008 4:49 am

AndyDufresne wrote:After I finish up some duties (which may take a few hours :D) I'll see if I can make sense of it all again.


--Andy


Cool - looking forward to doing some spring cleaning!!

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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Dancing Mustard on Sun May 18, 2008 8:43 am

This news makes DM smile.

@ Dustn: Meh, that happened when they permitted clans and it doesn't look like it did the place any harm...
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 21, 2008 4:20 pm

There is a snag, but we'll see if the people at phpBB can assist us. Stay tuned.


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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby owenshooter on Wed May 21, 2008 5:52 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:There is a snag, but we'll see if the people at phpBB can assist us. Stay tuned.
--Andy

yeah, i'm not going anywhere... this would be huge, especially for the clans that are regularly trolled by admins :shock: ...-0
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Gilligan on Wed May 21, 2008 5:52 pm

I remember one time way back in the day lack gave all leaders a day or two to clean up their clan, hence giving them full mod powers only in our clan.
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Vace Cooper on Wed May 21, 2008 6:48 pm

Just want to say I agree with DM on getting the mod powers in subforums, and I've seen other threads about the same topic. I realize it's not something that can happen overnight. I fugured the more support on this topic the better.
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby fwblb on Wed May 21, 2008 9:31 pm

Vace Cooper wrote: I fugured



haha.

yes, i would love some spring cleaning. tis the season. i was hoping we could erase some of our old threads to make it neater.
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby jbrettlip on Wed May 21, 2008 11:03 pm

I agree. But I think Andy's avatar may be a racist caricature of my clan mate Owen. Iwas never so racially sensitive until Twill taught me how ignorant I was...Now my eyes are wide open to intolerance. Thanks, Twill!!!
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Dancing Mustard on Thu May 22, 2008 7:06 am

Is there any chance that we could be told precisely what these alleged 'issues' are, rather than just being given another "We'll do it when we feel like it. There are things stopping us that we magically can't tell you about"?

What's the issue? There are mods for every forum under the sun here, but not clan forums. If all of the other moderating classes are up and running so smoothly, then what's the problem with this one?
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Fruitcake on Thu May 22, 2008 8:32 am

AndyDufresne wrote:There is a snag, but we'll see if the people at phpBB can assist us. Stay tuned.


--Andy


Good for you guys Andy.

On a serious note.

Sub forum moderation carried out by selected members of clans can only, ulitmately, assist the smooth running of the site. Time after time in 'real life' (did I just use that expression? Philosophically I sometimes wonder what that is....I digress) power delegated from the centre brings rich rewards. It has to be said that it brings risks, but positive benefits outweigh the negatives.

Centralisation of power stifles freedom of thought, expression and progress. Naturally a central control is still viable, and in fact, required, rules still need to be in place, and sub forum moderation needs its own checks and balances.
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby yeti_c on Thu May 22, 2008 8:35 am

I was talking to Andy about this the other day on Skype...

He said that he was trying it out - but one of the problems was that the "usergroup mod" could now see the Moderator Control Panel for the entire board... which is obviously something that normal folks shouldn't have access to...

So I assume they need to talk to the people at PHPBB.com to work a Modification to stop this from happening.

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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby Dancing Mustard on Thu May 22, 2008 9:48 am

yeti_c wrote:He said that he was trying it out - but one of the problems was that the "usergroup mod" could now see the Moderator Control Panel for the entire board... which is obviously something that normal folks shouldn't have access to...

So hang on, are you saying
1. That usergroup mods could effectively moderate the whole board
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2. That usergroup mods could just see how a moderator could moderate the whole board (i.e. they had the console but couldn't make it work).

Because number 1 seems very strange if we've already managed to limit powers to places (a la multi-hunters) and 2 just seems overly precious. I'm sure that people are well aware of what mods can and can't do, so seeing what the buttons look like ought not be a problem. I'm sure people would be very happy to live with having a few unecessary doodads on their screens until a fix could be effected...
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Re: Mod Powers in Sub-Forums

Postby yeti_c on Thu May 22, 2008 9:55 am

No I think he said it gave you a few more powers that you shouldn't need...

And it's probably the case that the Multi hunters have these - but they are trusted members of staff - and not lay people like you or me... and therefore can be trusted not to abuse said tools.

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