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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby albertq on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:42 pm

t-o-m says: 'why is this being idea passed before stickied'

personally i have no idea wut this all means, and didn't even bother to read the thread, but i agree with t-o-m. he makes a good point, you [mod censored]

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby albertq on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:05 pm

that was a flame not a troll gimil! anyway i made a fair point in the first part of my post, please consider it

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby sam_levi_11 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:30 pm

gimil, either completely go with the first type of name that is more recognisable, or go back to original one as at the moment the name thing looks crap half half.

the escalating bonus' are good and most bonus' are pretty well done but central wei should be worth 6. There are so many teritorys and it was alos the place in 3k china with the most people with huge citys like xia pi, chang an(wei capital 1), xu chang (wei capital 2) and then the heavily contested area of jie ting which shu conquered at one point before having to withdraw due to internal troubles, meaning they did not win the war by taking the lands of wei.

also lu ling and nan hai should be connected if we want realism, but if it may be to detriment of fairness as it would make southern wu worth even more, however it would be evened out if yue sui was split, and the cont worth 3 and central wei was increased by 1 bonus. then they would all increase by 1
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby oaktown on Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:04 pm

albertq wrote:t-o-m says: 'why is this being idea passed before stickied'

My bad - got ahead of myself. I meant to sticky it, not stamp it.

I guess you can all tell i don't spend muc time here in the Ideas forum. #-o
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby Joodoo on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:07 pm

Could you include a bonus for holding the capital cities of the three kingdoms?
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:13 pm

Joodoo wrote:Could you include a bonus for holding the capital cities of the three kingdoms?


Sorry I have to say no, im not a fan of city bonuses.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby Sir. Ricco on Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:10 pm

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Joodoo wrote:Could you include a bonus for holding the capital cities of the three kingdoms?


Sorry I have to say no, im not a fan of city bonuses.

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby Sir. Ricco on Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:11 pm

Sorry for the double post, but the bonuses are a lot better. Seen to be a little bit more fair. I like the graphic a lot, really nice work on those.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 5

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:26 pm

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Moved stuff about and changed a few colours. Tweeked terr names as well.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby seamusk on Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:38 pm

you know, I've always liked this map gameplay wise. Gameplay is its strength right now.

Not sure I'm crazy about the graphics though. They aren't terrible, but the map is very very dark. I tend to avoid dark maps and I'm sure others do too. You've made a lot of progress with the lettering but the dark blue area in the top right is completely illegible to me. I also think that having the name of the one territory completely outside the territory without any connecting reference throws me off. It took me a few seconds to interpret that.

I don't know. I really like this map conceptually as I commented on when I first saw it. At least the territories need to be lightened whether that means a shading difference or using a background that brings out the light more I'm not sure.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:54 pm

i like this map. the graphics in my opinion are great. the only thing that i see right now is that the red chinese letter in the bottom is the lighter red. i think it should be the medium darkness colour.
i guess i also agree with seamusk about the names outside the territory completely. it does kinda throw you off. maybe make it just a little closer?
i like this set-up better than the one before. :D

(p.s.- i think this should get advanced soon...)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby oaktown on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:24 pm

seamusk wrote:you know, I've always liked this map gameplay wise. Gameplay is its strength right now.

Agreed. Though some clarification about the bonuses is necessary - is the kingdom bonus inclusive of the region bonuses, or in addition?

seamusk wrote:Not sure I'm crazy about the graphics though. They aren't terrible, but the map is very very dark. I tend to avoid dark maps and I'm sure others do too.

This was my exact comment. I get that you're going for a darker, more ominous look than other maps - the dark ages of China so to speak. But you can use dark colors and still retain contrast and keep it visually engaging - right now it's not just dark, it's somehow dim - its as if you've use the same pastels we see on most maps but just washed them out a bit. Maybe that's it - the colors themselves aren't really "dark" colors - pink, sky blue, avacado - they're just muted versions of bright colors.

of course, this is coming from the colorblind CA, so you can tell me where to stick it. ;)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby RjBeals on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:32 pm

seamusk wrote:...but the map is very very dark. I tend to avoid dark maps and I'm sure others do too.


I don't think it's too bad though - what makes it look dark is the dark/de-saturated text on the medium colors. If the font was adjusted, you wouldn't think it was dark.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:34 pm

oaktown wrote:of course, this is coming from the colorblind CA, so you can tell me where to stick it. ;)


Hehehehehe

Im not much happy with the pallete either. Choosing colours also isnt my strongest points. Any tips would be appreciated :)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:53 pm

well i dont know about anyone else...
but i like a purple, orange, and like a cyany color. Darker water too.

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I could be completely off on that though.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:06 pm

i like the colour scheme. i do not like what kaplowitz suggested... :sick: :D
i don't really find it too dark either though. i think its fine
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby RjBeals on Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:08 pm

i kinda like that orange & cyan colors, but not the purple.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:27 pm

Gimil, perhaps take come cues from Ancient Chinese art, and the colors that were used...and how they were used.

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/chi ... inming.jpg
http://www.chinapage.com/poremp6.gif
http://www.chinapage.com/rdragon.gif
http://www.chinapage.com/images/qianlong.jpg

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:54 pm

they used a lot of yellow...
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 5

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:07 am

Here ive played around with the colours. Im not 100% happy but its a step in the right direction I feel.

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby seamusk on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:20 am

I agree that that is the right direction. Looks better. And legible!

EDIT for additional thought. As rocky mountain pointed out, they use a lot of yellow. I think that if you used yellow for the north instead of blue it would complete the feel.

Looks like you changed the background which I think had a big impact on how it looks.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:00 am

no blue red and green are the army colours, green for shu, red for wu and blue for wei, how it was, has been and always should be.

also gimil i know im pushing hard on the names but anyone who knows their stuff will look and thing - WTF happened there. iv provided with maps, its just up to you to change a bit of text
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:13 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:no blue red and green are the army colours, green for shu, red for wu and blue for wei, how it was, has been and always should be.

also gimil i know im pushing hard on the names but anyone who knows their stuff will look and thing - WTF happened there. iv provided with maps, its just up to you to change a bit of text


Im know sam sorry to seem ive been ignoring you but ive been pushed for time and I forget to go back to whatyou said. Perhaps if you make a list like you did in the old thread to make is easier and quicker for me to check.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 3

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:39 am

Api-Yai is Yong Chang,
yueh sui is Yunnan and Jianti divided into two.
Tsang-ke is Zhuti.

pa-tung is Han Zhong,
wu-tu is yin ping
and Fu lin is Baxi and Ba dong (left-right)
Yong-an is Ba.

ok the prob with this map is that it only has the names of them not the borders of their provinces so u have to compare with your map

nan is jing nan
tung an is wuxing
Jianling is yu zhang
meanwhile Lin - Ch'uan is Lin Hai



so i dunno how u split yeuh sui and Fu Lin but its two terits
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:17 pm

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How is this sam? I dont really want to go splitting terrs thou.
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