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by **RjBeals** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:22 pm

I'm not a fan of diamentina - the territory within a territory. But I'm liking the feel so far. Add territs all over the place. You'll have to reduce your font size though. The mountains - however crude, don't look that bad ?

by **oaktown** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:47 pm

Click image to enlarge.

Can you tell I had the day off?

What's new here: up to 55 territories, which is good for everything but two/three players, but with that many territories I'm not sure any number is going to be great for 3 player games. 57 would be better, and would mean fewer neutrals in other size games.

Added Rio de Plata as a river region, attackable via the capitals (which are, conveniently, also ports in this map's case). This is a good add in my opinion, since that region and it's sea access is what they were all fighting over to begin with.

Still haven't done any graphics work on this... later.

Crap - I also intend to have an Amazon crossing in the north somewhere but I keep forgetting to add it.

by **mibi** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:53 pm

isn't 800 px too tall?

by **oaktown** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:01 pm

mibi wrote:isn't 800 px too tall?

it's the max height for the large image. The small will have to work at 600, which may be a challenge.

by **mibi** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:35 pm

oaktown wrote:
mibi wrote:isn't 800 px too tall?

it's the max height for the large image. The small will have to work at 600, which may be a challenge.

oh right, i forgot.

by **oaktown** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:20 pm

Click image to enlarge.

Nobody is saying much of anything about this (probably because it's in Ideas??) so I'll just keep on plugging away.

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:26 pm

I'm generally unfamiliar with this war. Could you provide a summary of main events?

But really, maybe the small addition of something similar to the Dust Bowl explanation RJ provided on his map, might be in order.

I like the general look of the map (I suppose I prefer this style of graphics over L.A.), though the heavy green tones on the top clash a little with the bottom colors perhaps.

What is the justification behind the Rio de la Plata? I understand it is where the two rivers meet up, it seems almost like a random addition (and it also feels like Paraguay's capital would be safe from such attacks due to it being further inland!).

Hm, how much of this war went on in the North of Brazil? If little battle went on, it may be worthwhile to just cut off some of the top, enlarge the southern area of contention (where all the countries meet). But like I mentioned, I'm pretty unfamiliar with the war.

Perhaps an idea to include, or use somehow...mark major battles that occurred during the war. I'm not exactly sure what they'd do, if anything at all (maybe just decorative graphics), but a random idea.

Also, as I gather from the title...it was 3 vs 1, country wise. If you add a description (and perhaps even if you don't) explain mention the sides. If you don't add a description, perhaps just order the countries similar to: Name, Name, Name V.S. Name.

--Andy

by **fireedud** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:42 pm

4 updates in 2 pages. =P~

Are you becoming the next Dim?

by **seamusk** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:59 am

[quote="oaktown"]

Click image to enlarge.

If you can make the contrast between the water and land a little stronger that would be good.

Looking at the map I like the capitals attack idea via rio de plata. It helps with the potential for bottlenecking down south. Otherwise Uruguay would be a huge problem.

The northern Amazon seems too easy to cut off and isolate. It has multiple points where access can be blocked with only 2 points of defense. I would recommend working in a third. The drop is less likely to spoil games on maps where parts of the map have 3 or more points of contact/infiltration/defense.

by **oaktown** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:31 am

seamusk wrote:The northern Amazon seems too easy to cut off and isolate. It has multiple points where access can be blocked with only 2 points of defense.

Hmm, I see what you mean - from the Barra do Rio Negro territory it is an easy, terit by terit march through Alto and Rio Maeira. Geogaphically I'm not what to do about that given the current region configurations.

I think what I may end up doing is flipping the regions so that instead of having North and South Amazons I have Upper and Lower Amazons. This actually makes more sense geographically, and it means Upper is four territories (RIo Mad, Alto, Barra, Branca) with two borders, just as it is now, and lower is an easier to hold six territories with three borders.

As for Andy's comments:
• I'll create a text box with background of the war... this sounds like fun anyway.

• The colors will be pushed to look more faded and pastelish.
• Rio de la Plata is key to the war, as Paraguay was landlocked and trying to control its sea access... I'll note that in the text box.
• The north of Brazil had little involvement in the war, but this project was born from my attempt to re-imagine a Brazil map, so there it is. (Shhhh!)
• Battles... I'll think on it, but I'm tentative because a) the territories in which most of the action took place are already small and crowded, and b) extraneous images on CC maps just lead to gameplay confusion.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:42 am

The mountains are looking a bit weird oak.

by **oaktown** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:43 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:The mountains are looking a bit weird oak.

ugh, always the mountains! #-o

by **seamusk** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:01 pm

oaktown wrote:I think what I may end up doing is flipping the regions so that instead of having North and South Amazons I have Upper and Lower Amazons. This actually makes more sense geographically, and it means Upper is four territories (RIo Mad, Alto, Barra, Branca) with two borders, just as it is now, and lower is an easier to hold six territories with three borders.

This makes sense to me. Rio Mad has 3 points of contact so and that removes the bottleneck bonus. And yes, I like how it is now watershed based.

by **oaktown** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:03 pm

here it is with the regions shifted... the mountains I'll deal with later. I'll simplify the mountain issue, though someday I intend to get this type of mountain right.

And for the record, that's three updates on one page. :lol:

Click image to enlarge.

by **dittoeevee8888** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:39 pm

I dislike the mountains as well. They kind of look odd compared to the rest of the colours on the map. As well, they don't look like mountains to me. On the topic of mountains, I don't like how it kind of continues downward near Puelches while the actual game territory kind of cuts off before the mountians end.

I can't read the text under "brasil sudeste", as well.