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Indian Empire [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:30 am

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Basics:
42 territories.
Six traditional bonus regions, plus three sub bonuses for holding rail line between cities... the two southern lines cross multiple regions, and the Calcutta-Delhi line runs through the heart of a huge region that will be all but impossible to hold - thus the mini-bonuses to encourage activity in the center.

Nepal and Bhotan are NOT in play - there was discussion about having them as non-region territories, but that was a bad idea on my part.

Background:
With the Brazil revamp competition over, I wanted to recycle the look of my Brazil entry. My first idea was to try Japan (clicky), and I do believe that a japan map can work if the mapmaker were less ambitious about squeezing in territories than in the past attempts. But ultimately I don't feel that Japan is the right map for this background, so I've secured InkLosed's permission to pick up where he left off on the Indian Subcontinent map. This isn't a redux of InkLosed's map, but since he was the last to work on this I thought it would be polite to ask.

India has been attempted at least five times that I can find, but has proved as elusive catch. I'm not basing this map on any of the previous attempts, but I have looked over them to try to avoid the problems faced by the other mapmakers. I'm setting this in the 19th century, about 1870ish, after the British had brought the country under British rule and put down the mid-century rebellions. Territory and region names conform to 19th century conventions - yes, some spellings are funny, and Calcutta isn't Calcutta anymore, but as far as I can tell the names are historically accurate.

The past efforts are as follows, with links to the old threads:
InkLosed's Indian Subcontinent map. clicky
Reverand Kyles's India. clicky
Contrickster's Jewell of the Empire. clicky
ConformOrDie's Indian Presidencies. clicky
Gavin's Indian Subcontinent. clicky
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby ZeakCytho on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:40 am

Awesome, I'm glad the Brazil book background is getting some use.

If you went by old British colonial divisions of land would it give you more territories?
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby Incandenza on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:51 am

If you're thinking about a Sepoy Rebellion concept, then perhaps a couple of the major terits that figured in the war (dunno off the top of my head what those would be), could feature castles or forts which have either iraq-style loyalty squares or bamboo jack-style submaps. Given the overall look you're going for, I'd probably recommend the latter, as that would totally work in a book context.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby edbeard on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:58 am

very cool. I do hope you at least try to get it up to the 38-42 territory range
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby Telvannia on Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:22 am

Personally i think if you are going to do an india map you should base it on this map, (which i always preferred) :)

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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby InkL0sed on Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:34 am

I'm a little sad because I always did tell myself I'd see this through. However, it is cool that you're picking this up.

When I was still going for the graphics makeover, I came across several territories that could have been made by splitting with Assam in Eastern India.

http://bhagya.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/india-map.gif

You could also add those islands I was so against at the time (I believe they're called the Andaman Islands).
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:01 pm

an indian subcontinent map would be cool with the same style as the brazil map

all your little rhymes could end with, there's a lot of curry in india, or they don't eat cows in india, or they have a lot of tech support in india lol
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:01 pm

Telvannia wrote:Personally i think if you are going to do an india map you should base it on this map, (which i always preferred) :)

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where is this map from?
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby oaktown on Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:05 pm

huh, I immediately thought it was the old Indian Presidencies map, which I really liked, but that's this one...

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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby oaktown on Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:50 pm

The one above is from the "Jewel of the Empire" thread, which I don't even remember.

And here's yet another attempt, this time by reverand_kyle... that makes four! Given all of the false starts, maybe I should just start from scratch and do it the way I want.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby edbeard on Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:09 pm

I'd say that's a good idea. You really only have three maps there though since Kyle just copied the one Telvannia posted. I forget the name of the guy who did it.


my fav of those is the one you posted (with the capitals (though I would do an Italy like way of the capitals instead)). Since you might be using the book idea like your brazil revamp, it makes sense that it'd be an 'older' india.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby oaktown on Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:29 pm

edbeard wrote:I'd say that's a good idea. You really only have three maps there though since Kyle just copied the one Telvannia posted. I forget the name of the guy who did it.

Ah, you're right - two have the same terits.

Still, India seems to have a bigger jinx on it than Japan.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby Telvannia on Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:53 am

whitestazn88 wrote:
Telvannia wrote:Personally i think if you are going to do an india map you should base it on this map, (which i always preferred) :)

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where is this map from?


It was made by Contrickster, in this thread


oaktown wrote:huh, I immediately thought it was the old Indian Presidencies map, which I really liked, but that's this one...

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Though funnily enough, this was the map i was looking for when i found Jewel of the Empire. But i think they are equally as good.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:04 am

Mine doesn't count, and neither does this. Those past attempts were India - mine was Indian Subcontinent. There is a difference! ;)
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Re: Indian Subcontinent - rising from the ashes?

Postby asl80 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:01 am

look forward to your rendition oaktown, was always a fan of the old "indian presidencies" version (with the map and ship background), good luck.
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