oaktown wrote:Ah, the problem was indeed that I couldn't see the walking tracks... the old color trouble again.cairnswk wrote:The important point is that it has character and plays well.
Agreed, cairnswk - I think you put it well. I've had the same issue with other maps that have been a bit esoteric in terms of subject matter - Puget Sound being an excellent example. I think that Puget maps plays well enough, but until very late in its production the community obviously felt that it lacked character. Getting that map to the point where the colors and graphics gave the user some sense of what the region was about was grueling, but it paid off.
So if the criteria are that a map has character and plays well, I put it to you that at this point this map gives me little sense of the 'character' of this region. There are some neighborhoods near a coastline, but it could be anywhere and in any kind of climate; you could rename all of the territories with Egyptian names and call it the Nile Delta and I wouldn't be any wiser. Here is one very telling post from this thread that suggests that I'm not alone in my lack of understanding:whitestazn88 wrote:is cairnswk actually a place? or did you name the territ after yourself?
I'm not saying you should drop this, and I never have. Just keep in mind that for you this is a region that is very close to home (or, actually IS home!), so for you the "character" of the region is a given. Your challenge in creating this map, as I'm sure you know, is to share that inside knowledge with the rest of us. I want to know what I'm playing.
I certainly don't think that for a map to be quenched it should be a region that I am personally familiar with, but I do feel that it is my place as a member of the foundry community to share my thoughts on the potential appeal of a new map. I would hope that if I came up with a draft that didn't capture the spirit of my subject somebody would let me know... it would've saved me a lot of time and energy back in the old Chinese Checkers days.
oaktown wrote:I don't think it's ever too early to start thinking about what kind the character of the map will have... do I wait until you've done two months of work on the graphics before I say something is missing? But I trust you, so I'll back off. Carry on with the good work that you consistently do, cairnswk.
ZeakCytho wrote:Also, the grass at the bottom left is less than spectacular. It adds a nice flair, but I think you could do a better job with it.
ZeakCytho wrote:ZeakCytho wrote:Also, the grass at the bottom left is less than spectacular. It adds a nice flair, but I think you could do a better job with it.
You seem to have missed that?
The trees are nice, but make it harder to see the walking trails. I love the airport! Are you going to be extending these new elements to the eastern part of the map as well? Actually, I guess it's the southern part of the map...true north is the left side of the map, right?
ZeakCytho wrote:The trees are nice, but make it harder to see the walking trails.
oaktown wrote:ZeakCytho wrote:The trees are nice, but make it harder to see the walking trails.
Agreed, and it gets tricky to follow the dotted line attack route as well, but I already like it a ton better with the trees... in fact I'm changing my tune. Most of the maps around here are of large geographical areas - it would actually be fun to have a map that takes a much more local approach. Walking trails, for example, wouldn't be nearly big enough to appear on most other CC maps. More streets, buildings, and local color would make this map quite unique. Fishing boats?
whitestazn88 wrote:i understand why all of the neutrals are neutrals besides airport
and i know i'm a jerk for not reading the whole thing and finding out why myself, but i figured i'd drop in and say hey to cairns for old times sake
macwin wrote:Cool map cairnswk. Am looking forward to seeing the finished results. Seems like you pretty much covered the whole region well. It looks great! I need a new map since the demise of our beloved classic so lets hope this one is the cure.
Jumentum wrote:wow that is a terrific map!
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