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Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:26 am

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The map looks intentionally classic style with no particular features. An easy playing CC map!

7 continets and 44 territories
    - AUSTRALIA (Light Green - 10 territories)
    - MELANESIA ( Violet - 5 territories)
    - MICRONESIA ( Red - 6 territories)
    - NEW ZEALAND ( Orange - 5 territories )
    - POLYNESIA ( Pink - 9 territories)
    - EAST INDIES ( Sand - 5 territories)
    - KIRIBATI ( Dark Green - 4 territories)

- Last update: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=70624&start=330#p1958599

Final
Big Map
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Small Map
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XML

Oceania.xml

CONTINENTS BONUSES:

Formula and adjustments here

Australia +6
New Zealand +2
Melanesia +4
East Indies +3
Micronesia +4
Kiribati +2
Polynesia +6

FIRST VERSION

Old Versions:
Version 1.1
Version 1.2
Version 1.3a
Version 1.3b
Version 2.0
Version 2.2
Version 2.4 - ADVANCED DRAFT STAMP
Version 2.5
Version 3.0 - DRAFT STAMP
Version 4.0
Version 5.0
Version 5.1
Version 5.2
Version 5.3
Version 6.0
Version 6.1 - GAMEPLAY STAMP
Version 6.2
Version 6.3
Version 6.4 - GRAPHIC STAMP
Version 6.5
Version 6.6 - FINAL FORGE STAMP
Version 6.7 - XML STAMP
Final Version - QUENCHED


Developers :
Idea, Gameplay & XML :thenobodies80
Graphic : pikkio
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby gimil on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:57 am

If you take a look at the current australia map it will give you the actual names for the regions taht you have:

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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:26 pm

Just some quick feedback on this. Looking great by the way, good first draft:

West Australia should be Western Australia
North Australia should be Northern Territory
North-East Australia should be Queensland
South Australia is correct
South-East Australia should be NSW and Victoria

I believe Chartham Islands should be Chatham Islands

Kiribati (the territory) should probably be Kiribas, but that is just my opinion. It would help differentiate the two.

Northern Marian Islands should be North Mariana Islands
South Marian Islands might be better as Guam

Marquises Islands should be Marquesas Islands

Also, there is an island called Norfolk Island which is kind of east of Lord Howe Island, and Northwest of New Zealand. It might be nice to put that in, and have Lord Howe Island -> Norfolk Island -> New Zealand North Island. Norfolk Island is technically part of Australia, but it is under New Zealand jurisdiction and law, so it might be best (if you do put it in) to make it part of NZ.

There is also an island west of Ashmore Islands called Christmas Island, which is part of Australia
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby zdrakias on Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:41 pm

Looking nice, but I miss something special about this map.
In my opinion we got enough map as Classic etc.
Maybe you can add Embassies or Capitals that give a bonus.
Or big airports that connect Autralia with Melanesia, Polynesia and New Zealand and
small airports that Connect Melanesia to Micronesia and Polynesia to Kiribati

Something to the Graphic:
I would take whole Papua New Guinea and not just half of it.
Maybe connect this new part in a triangle with Paulau and Ashmore Islands.
Melanesia + 4 then
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby RjBeals on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:17 pm

Nice start.

But I feel like I can't focus on it. Sort of like a glowing group of dots. I think the dark colors, with the blck font and all the glow might not mesh too well. I do like the ocean color though. A nice shade of blue. And I like all the detail you have on the borders.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby Incandenza on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:30 pm

I concur with others in being impressed with the quality of the first draft.

One thing that jumps out at me, tho, is the inclusion of pitcairn island, seemingly at the expense of indonesia. Seems like you could lop off pitcairn, reorient the whole thing west, add indonesia, and get your terit count up from the 36ish you have currently to a more robust 40-48, plus adding a whole new continent. More to the point, the map itself may seems more substantial with more large island terits, rather than the spray of wee atolls that currently make up much of the terits.

You might want to have a look at cairnswk's WWII Australia map, as it covers some of the same area, though with obviously a different focus.

Also, I know you're working on the colors, but a brighter, more tropical palette may be in order. As it stands the glow around the terits is bright, but the terits themselves are pretty drab colors.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby pikkio on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:35 pm

sorry for the errors.. there are really a lot of islands and my eyes gone crazy... #-o

I will fix all that errors about names and regions. i will also add the Norfolk Island, but i didn't found the Christmas island and i think that it's not very rilevant for the strategy of the map, so for now i will not add it.. :roll:

The same for the Airports.. there are a lot of tecnical problems around that idea (graphical problems, i mean), so for now i will not add they.. :roll:

I think that include Indonesia and exclude Pitcairn will give many benefits for the map, graphical and strategy benefits.

but i wait the opinion of my friend thenobodies80. ;)

and i also try some alternative colours combinations. ;)

p.s. Thanx a lot for your review about the graphics! it was an hard work but i'm happy for the results. :mrgreen: 8-)
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby pikkio on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:11 pm

ok!

version 1.1 relased. :D

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coming soon the 1.2, with the other changes! ;)
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby asl80 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:15 pm

good start mate, keep it up!
i may as well get in quick and say lose the fluro colors! always degrade a map i reakon.

also, i've also always wanted to see this area done with local indigenous names and territory distinctions ... do you know the area well, or much about these things?
Maybe you me and eipi could do a bit of a correlating job on this?
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby pikkio on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:23 pm

version 1.2 with new colors! 8-)
thanx for the good suggests! =D>

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@ asl80: in fact i don't know very well the zones.. i'm italian.. the other side of the world.. :P
i will really appreciate your help!!
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby Incandenza on Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:46 pm

How married to the glow are you? 'Cause with such an intense glow, the small islands look less like islands than they do bacteria in a petri dish...

One thing you might also want to look at are the number of dead-end terits (i.e. only accessible from one other terit)... there's already quite a few even if you do end up losing pitcain, and the guam-north marianas dead end is particularly brutal.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby The Neon Peon on Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:48 pm

The lighter colors are/were better.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby RjBeals on Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:55 pm

A little glow is fine - but this is overkill. And I liked the original ocean color better.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby samuelc812 on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:00 pm

I don't know why Australia is different colours if it is one bonus, mite get a little confusing, and perhaps instead of the glow just make the land the colour of the bonus instead of having the land and the glow different colours makes it look strange. For example the Micronesia Bonus has pink land with lime green glow it just looks a little strange?? Maybe make the land the same colour as the glow and not have the spread of the glow so big. and i am not sure about the territory titles being fluro light blue, maybe white would be better on that dark background ;) For the lighter background, black territory titles look better...
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Re: OCEANIA MAP NEW! (25/11/08 Vers. 1.0)

Postby edbeard on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:01 pm

RjBeals wrote:A little glow is fine - but this is overkill. And I liked the original ocean color better.


totally agree. the map is very eewwwww right now.

I'd prefer if all the islands/land were all the same colour (as the rest of the land/island which are part of that continent). Otherwise it's somewhat confusing. Sure they have the same glow but different land colours only add questions.

The old ocean colour was good in that it hid the glow a bit. Now it totally domineers everything else on the map.

Your map title has ample space to be place in the top right side of the map.




Don't go making big changes yet. I'll come back with a gameplay analysis later.
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