RjBeals wrote:Well first of all, thanks WM for taking this on. You've done good so far. Also, just because I had the layers in the PS file I gave you, doesn't mean you have to use them Use whatever creative freedom you wish.
Thanks RJ. I will try to make this map as close to the winning entry as possible. I have no intention of trying to insert my own direction or design to change from that.
Don’t worry, I plan to.RjBeals wrote:But anyway - feel free to use me as a resource, I just didn't want added responsibility of another map to complete
DRAGON THEME is out (but we will still have dragons)
Well I have been thinking about the title and everything. Since I agree that the map will not be filled with dragons, calling the map the “Dragon Realm” is not a good idea. We can still use dragon names for places (maybe the Fire mountain region is home to the dragons) but making the theme dependent on them is not a good idea. The map needs to stay as close to the original winner as possible. Why there will be dragons and creatures, the map will not have dragons in the title.hecter wrote:I really like the title, I think that in order to have a dragon or serpent instead, it would have to be done *really* well in order to not look tacky and like you're over doing it. One thing I don't like is the boats way off there. If you were to replace them with something better suited (more fantastic), or take them away completely, I think that'd be better...
edbeard wrote:I also disagree about more dragons. That's not what people voted for. The changes done so far are fine (except the dragon in the Death Swamp/Wastelands mountains which doesn't look good to me). The one on the legend looks awesome. The sea dragon is really cool too. Fix the third one. Maybe move it to somewhere that it isn't blocked by mountains. One more dragon other than that wouldn't hurt but any more and it could get cluttered. remember we need army counts on this too. The reason people voted for the map is the simplicity. Makes sure the newly added theme doesn't intrude on that.
Exactly.RjBeals wrote:I really like the dragon wrapped around the legend color blocks. But I hope you don't over do it with the "dragons everywhere".
And as RJ said here
RjBeals wrote:Also, I kind of liked those ships. Maybe the one beside the legend does look a little cramped, but I hope we can at least keep the top one.
The boats stay. I will work on the legend. We really don’t know if the boat fits until we agree on the bonus region names.
I will look into that arrow sizeedbeard wrote:The one way arrow still needs more work. Perhaps make it larger (longer) so it is not solely hovering over the mountains. It kinda gets lost where it is now.
Well here is the thing. The winning map had two tone colored mountains. I think it looks better with it that way as RJ made it. I don’t think adding another color to the mountains will help the look.edbeard wrote:do we think these mountains might be better served being like the ones on Wales (the colours being all one type in one area) ?
OK I can mess with the symbol and title font. Like I said earlier, I think the word dragon in the title is too much and imply there need to be dragons everywhere.RjBeals wrote:I played around with that title - but was never satisfied, which is why I turned off the layer. But you've done a great job with it. I think what I didn't like was the Nordic symbol for the "A" in MIDGARD. I like the circle behind it. But I'm good either way.
I will mod the title to the 7 Kingdoms for now until we can find a better one or keep that.
COLORS AND NAMES
I think this will be the main focus of discussion and adjustment.RjBeals wrote:You can change colors to whatever you wish. The territory names also. Not too much though was put into them, because I was planning on getting some input from the foundry for that.
Once we get the sub title worked out (if we even need one) we can work on bonus region names and then territory names for those regions.
SO maybe the red bonus can be called Dragon Hordes instead of Fire Mountains. Etc, etc...
As far as colors go, I think they look great. Personally that I one of the reasons this map looks so good. The colors are awesome. I really only think they should be adjusted for colorblind issues and if at all possible another step be made to help differentiate them before colors are changed.
I will post a newer, less “dragony themed” version (but still with some dragons) and we can go from there.
Thanks for all of the input so far.