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Postby lgoasklucyl on Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:52 pm

Central America
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Version 14:
-Moved a couple territory names around (Islas de la Bahia up, Chiriqui down a little bit, Puntarenas down a bit)
-Added the full name for RAAS (only changed on the large, it was there last small version)
-Fixed up the credits. I think the brighter green is much more readable
-Spaced out/tried to center the sea rout names. I think I accidentally bumped the font size of Atlantic up, something I'll fix next update.

Version 14:
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Thanks for all the positive comments everyone! Hopefully we can finish this one up soon :)

I'm going to look into moving the Canal bonus text next version, curious as to how it would look. I kind of like it where it is, but if it improves on things I won't mind moving it!

Territories: 33
Continents: 7
Gameplay: Standard geographical game play with six sea routes.

Previous Versions:
Version One: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8175/caflatfinal1er5.jpg
Version Two: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5865/camapsmallerflat1dw1.jpg
Version Three: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8871/camapsmallerflat1fx7.jpg
Version four: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9899/camapsmallerflat1ss8.jpg
Version Five: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8740/camapsmallerv5t.jpg (Circles); http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7795/camapsmallerv5tnoc.jpg (No Circles)
Version Six: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5513/camapsmallerv6nocircles.jpg
Version Seven: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7695/camapsmallerv7flat.jpg
Version Eight: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8268/camapsmallerv8nocircles.jpg
Version Nine: http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4547/camapsmallerv9.jpg
Version Eleven (nope... I can't count): http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5792/camapsmallerv112grunge.jpg
version Twelve: http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9582/camapsmallerv12.png
Version Thirteen: [L]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4456/camapv131large.jpg; [S]http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6940/camapv131large88.jpg
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:58 pm

instead of having dotted lines for attack routs, maybe for long distance borders, have ports and say that ports connect to each on each ocean or something, just a thought
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby samuelc812 on Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:00 pm

Ok here are a few things i would change:

  • The Glow behind the territory titles doesn't fit, maybe make it 1 pixel bigger and lower the opacity as it just looks bad when it's 100% white, needs to be dimmed.
  • I'm not too fond of the texture of the land.
  • The legend doesn't need to be embossed like that, it looks a bit strange.
  • I'm thinking you should just remove the 88's just for now, so we can look at it without 88's.
  • Also when doing Army Circles you don't need them so bright, since your continents are bright you probably don't even need army circles? But if you do i would dim them because as of now they are too strong.
  • And as you said the green and blue continents don't really fit IMO but that's just what i think.
  • I love the Water, very Tropical.
  • I would like the title better if it had some sought of tropical flavour to it, go to http://www.dafont.com they have heaps of fonts you can download for free, there could be a tropical onethat fits this perfectly.

That's all from me for the moment, remember i''m only one person so don't take my opinion as the opinion of the whole community ;)
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby edbeard on Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:05 pm

I'm glad you're going to at least attempt the use #2's font. I hope you also seriously consider his legend as well. the fonts there are nice but the crests/symbols (or whatever they are) are a nice touch
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby lgoasklucyl on Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:40 am

Due to me being roughly 18 hours late on deadline for the paper I work for I was unable to work on it last night. I do have a block of free time today I may put to use on it, though few comments may negate much potential progress.
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby bryguy on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:32 pm

shouldn't this be in the main foundry?
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby lgoasklucyl on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:34 pm

bryguy wrote:shouldn't this be in the main foundry?


Indeed. I've PMd Oaky asking him to move it (not sure he can).

Question: Does anyone feel this map would benefit from being smaller? It is rather large in its current state, and I feel it could afford to be a little smaller.
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby oaktown on Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:57 pm

MrBenn had already Draft stamped the original thread, so let's get this into the Foundry and working on the gameplay/graphics stamps... in the next day or two I'll weed through the old threads and bring all gameplay and naming concerns into this thread.

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The future of this map is now in the hands of the mapmaking competition... :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=70130
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby Incandenza on Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:01 pm

If you could make it smaller without sacrificing legibility, that would be pretty great, speaking as one with a small laptop monitor.

If you're looking for inspiration for a compass, I freakin' loved the one Zeak did (his was the other map that was removed for the final round of voting). I dunno if it would fit into your style, but might be a good starting point.

FYI, I'll be the guy gameplay stamping this. I don't foresee much in the way of changes, but I'm sure I'll have a few gameplay comments before it's all said and done.

Congrats on winning the competition!
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby lgoasklucyl on Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:06 pm

Incandenza wrote:If you could make it smaller without sacrificing legibility, that would be pretty great, speaking as one with a small laptop monitor.

If you're looking for inspiration for a compass, I freakin' loved the one Zeak did (his was the other map that was removed for the final round of voting). I dunno if it would fit into your style, but might be a good starting point.

FYI, I'll be the guy gameplay stamping this. I don't foresee much in the way of changes, but I'm sure I'll have a few gameplay comments before it's all said and done.

Congrats on winning the competition!


Thanks Incan =)

I noted early in the first round of gameplay that the map being used was rather off geographically from an actual map due to a division at the Panama Canal. I mentioned it being a potentially intriguing addition, but couldn't pursue that any further due to everyone needed to stick to the predesignated game play. Just figured I'd mention it ;)
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby oaktown on Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:16 am

I went looking for any concerns from the older theads that I don't want us to overlook, and allI could find was this...

abarbaro wrote:As a Costa Rica citizen, i going to do a correction the capital of my contry is San Jose, is also a provinces as Alajuela.But if they are going to name a provinces San Jose is more important than Alajuela is very closed in the map, but is a diferent provinces.
Should be change.

I don't see any problem with making the Alajuela territory (which we may have mis-spelled anyway) San Jose. It could be broken into two lines which may fit better anyway.

My thoughts on the visuals of this map... I don't like the way the playable area seems to pop out of the non-playable land to the north and south. It may be the beveling that I don't like. Seems like even non-playing land should be on the same physical plane as the rest of the land.

I only just now noticed the color on the attack route dots - very cool idea! =D>

The stroke on the region names in the small map is oppressive. Make it look like more of a glow, perhaps? And there are places that the territory names on the main map start are hard to read - my eyes get lost in Usulutan. Again, the the stroke may be too strong.

I don't think the compass rose is bad, but it lacks central american flavor... it looks more like a tacky 1960s clock.

As for the map size, as the mapmaker you are free to take some artistic liberties with geography here, lgoasklucyl. You could bring the western reaches of Guatemala in a few pixels, shorten parts or all of Panama, etc. Moving the Islas a few pixels east will put some much-need space between the attack routes in there. And nobody said that the top of the map has to be due-north, though it probably makes the most sense in this case. I think most CC mapmakers have been guilty of altering geography to fit gameplay - as long as everything is still recognizable, nobody will even notice if you hack 50 miles off of the Peten or make the islands a bit larger than life.

Alright, looking forward to what you give us next! :D
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby maritovw on Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:17 am

hi, i'm from guatemala so i'm very excited about this map... first off, just a couple of corrections on territory names:
- it's IZABAL not IZABEL
- XELA is like a short name for XELAJÚ, which is the real name of the city.. i think you should change the name to XELAJÚ
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby oaktown on Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:47 am

hmm, the drop shadow on the cayes is so far from the islands it looks like they are hovering over the earth... :-s
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby lgoasklucyl on Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:06 pm

I'm glad someone noted the color on the attack routes- thank Oak =D.

I've been mulling over this today, touching it up here and there. I'm currently figuring out a new font for the terit names and trying to decide on colors for the terits. I'm not sure I can make the orange/red/yellow thing work because they will undoubtedly run pretty close together. Ideas anyone?

The terit name font will be a lot more readable/less harsh once it's done, as this is a concern multiple individuals have pressed on.

Regarding map size: I will be making the entire image smaller. I've looked at it on a couple of screens and it would suck for users will smaller monitors the size it is. Plus, it looks better sized down somewhat.

Soon as I figure out those two issues I will post a new image- wish me luck :roll:
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Re: Central America [D]

Postby gimil on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:22 am

Hi Igoasklucyl,

I just wanted to come in and congratulate you on the win for the competition. I have a few concerns of my own but I see there has been alot of comments made already concerning your map so I will wait until you update before I bombard you with my shit :D
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