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Re: Jamaica V2 (4-2 For the map)

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:02 pm

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Re: Jamaica V2 (4-2 For the map)

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:56 pm

sailorseal wrote:What is the deal? Why do people hate small maps? I love small maps. I almost exclusively play on them. This is a very interesting map but it took me a minute to figure out where Port Royal is and how it connects. Can you change the colors I feel they are just too bright... :shock:


Yes, i'm changing the whole map. so that it will become more of like Age of Merchants play style, small map, lots of resource combos for bouses, history, slaves, sugar plantations, pirates, the colonials, bumbo, gold....it's all gonna be there, tons of research of this one though but should be interesting. :)
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Re: Jamaica V3

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:07 pm

Version 3...converted to Coreldraw

Build your resources....
Pirate with the colonials....bombard them and the forts
Plenty of artwork to be done on this one.
What do you make of this version?


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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:46 pm

Cairnswk is a machine...

And I for one have complete faith in him. If he thinks the map will be played, then I say the map will be played!

And I liked the simpler first map better... The new map is more realistic, but not directly approachable.
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Re: Jamaica V2 (4-2 For the map)

Postby sailorseal on Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:01 pm

cairnswk wrote:
sailorseal wrote:What is the deal? Why do people hate small maps? I love small maps. I almost exclusively play on them. This is a very interesting map but it took me a minute to figure out where Port Royal is and how it connects. Can you change the colors I feel they are just too bright... :shock:


Yes, i'm changing the whole map. so that it will become more of like Age of Merchants play style, small map, lots of resource combos for bouses, history, slaves, sugar plantations, pirates, the colonials, bumbo, gold....it's all gonna be there, tons of research of this one though but should be interesting. :)


I like the combos idea, and like in conquer man maybe lots of combos including the same resource...
example: "gold + slaves=2" "sugar + gold=3"
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:08 pm

I like the map idea, but I liked the previous version's game play better.

Graphics are definitely an improvement though.
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:00 am

I think Jamaica should just be classic style...

Also i think it should be a LOT more saturated, and more like the flag colors.

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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:01 am

Kaplowitz wrote:I think Jamaica should just be classic style...

Also i think it should be a LOT more saturated, and more like the flag colors.
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Kap...the colours i might do, but classic it will not be. ;)
Oh and can you down-size that huge flag, it's hogging my thread.
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Re: Jamaica V3

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:26 pm

Current Version 3

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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:52 pm

Starting to look a lot better.

I am kind of confused on gameplay... what are the starting positions? If they are the ships, then why can they bombard each other?
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Re: Jamaica V4

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:22 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:Starting to look a lot better.

I am kind of confused on gameplay... what are the starting positions? If they are the ships, then why can they bombard each other?

Whoops, wasn't thinking there was I?
Fixed below in....Version 4

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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby MrBenn on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:41 pm

I'm not sold on the colour-scheme, which doesn't feel very Jamaican (colonial or otherwise).

The inset maps are fairly confusing, and it is not very obvious how they fit into (ie connect) the map.
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:44 pm

MrBenn wrote:....
The inset maps are fairly confusing, and it is not very obvious how they fit into (ie connect) the map.

Are you going blind man?
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:46 pm

It's much better now, but I'd move Kingston name left a bit.

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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby MrBenn on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:47 pm

cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:....
The inset maps are fairly confusing, and it is not very obvious how they fit into (ie connect) the map.

Are you going blind man?

I know how they fit - I'm just saying it's not obvious.
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:51 pm

pls, this map is starting to turn into a fave of mine, try saturating the colors a lot, i would prefer standard bonuses, and gameplay, but that i guess is your call
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:27 pm

Swords are a bit blurry on the insets.

And if all ships border all posts, doesn't that mean you just attack a port then a ship? And then in an assassin, first person to move wins, yet in a 2 players, first person to attack a port exposes themselves and loses.

Perhaps the starting points might not border each other, and not be one territory away from each other, but several territories away?
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby oaktown on Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:54 pm

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:i would prefer standard bonuses, and gameplay, but that i guess is your call

I think we have plenty of standard gameplay maps, but this one just seems a bit too Age of Merchants. I know, AoM is based on the history of places like Jamaica, but this is a lot of gameplay info for a map idea that isn't entirely original.

(Sorry for my pessimism, but I keep opening up maps that are at least 40% legend... what gives?)
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:06 am

MrBenn wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:....
The inset maps are fairly confusing, and it is not very obvious how they fit into (ie connect) the map.

Are you going blind man?

I know how they fit - I'm just saying it's not obvious.

Well i am all open to suggestions as to how to make it more obvious...i would have thought it was quite obvious from the dotted attack lines. :)
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:22 am

the.killing.44 wrote:It's much better now, but I'd move Kingston name left a bit.
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Cool!

MrBenn wrote:I'm not sold on the colour-scheme, which doesn't feel very Jamaican (colonial or otherwise)....

And what would be the colours for Jamaica or otherwise Mr Benn?

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:pls, this map is starting to turn into a fave of mine, try saturating the colors a lot, i would prefer standard bonuses, and gameplay, but that i guess is your call


LZ, i'm going to attempt some terraforming for this map...just give me some time. As for gameplay, there was a negative input for a small standard map, so it is changed.

The Neon Peon wrote:Swords are a bit blurry on the insets.
And if all ships border all posts, doesn't that mean you just attack a port then a ship? And then in an assassin, first person to move wins, yet in a 2 players, first person to attack a port exposes themselves and loses.
Perhaps the starting points might not border each other, and not be one territory away from each other, but several territories away?

Swords are not finished yet, i put them up to see the reception to link into a pirate theme...
Any other suggestions for starting terts to alter the suggested gameplay TNP?...that would make sense.

oaktown wrote:.... but this one just seems a bit too Age of Merchants. I know, AoM is based on the history of places like Jamaica, but this is a lot of gameplay info for a map idea that isn't entirely original.
(Sorry for my pessimism, but I keep opening up maps that are at least 40% legend... what gives?)


Oh dear you poor thing...you've been having a terrible time in the Drafts, haven't you?
Who says that AoM can't be the only one of it's type. Perhaps you should look more positively at what i am trying to do here, and that is to:
a. give us a J map
b. find a theme that works well for this island - that being resources and pirates and it's colonial history
c. because it ain't got much else apart from being a small standard play map which nobody seemed to want.
d. satisfy the need for something pirates on a map that is and isn't linked too closely to that other pirate theme that is doing the rounds these days on the movie screen.

Do be honest, oaktown, i think you're all getting a bit too hoity-toity and about what can and can't be done on this site. I haven't yet heard lackattack knocking on my door saying enough is enough...and i thought he was the owner.
If Gimil and edbeard can get some minimalist map into the foundry, then i don't see why you're being so negative about my attempts for variety. :)
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby MrBenn on Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:18 am

cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I'm not sold on the colour-scheme, which doesn't feel very Jamaican (colonial or otherwise)....

And what would be the colours for Jamaica or otherwise Mr Benn?

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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:21 am

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cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I'm not sold on the colour-scheme, which doesn't feel very Jamaican (colonial or otherwise)....

And what would be the colours for Jamaica or otherwise Mr Benn?

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OK, that's nicely positive. i'll see what i can do
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby MrBenn on Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:12 pm

I realised that I forgot to give this to you before:

[Advanced Draft]
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:11 pm

Shit, i didn't expect that. :o
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Re: Jamaica V3 - Pirates/Colonials added

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:29 pm

Three drafts and it is already and advanced draft?! :-s
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