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13 Colonies Quenched!

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:33 am

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Draft Discussion, 2/20/09-7/18/09, pp. 1-8,

Gameplay Discussion, 7/18/09-9/9/09, pp. 8-15

Graphics Discussion, 9/9/09-1/25/10, pp. 15-31

XML, 10/30/09-02/11/10, p. 18, 31-34

Final Forge, -1/25/10

INFO
Map Name :: The 13 American Colonies
Cartographer :: Industrial Helix
Map Type :: Standard
Territories :: 41 Including 2 neutral Indian Territories
Continents :: 13 colony bonuses, 3 ship bonuses
Special Features :: killer neutrals Indian Territory start at 2
Rhode Island, Delaware and Connecticut start 2 neutral at the beginning of the game (no killer)



Rules:
Standard gameplay.
Bonuses are gained through holding individual colonies.
Ship bonuses have starting points to prevent landed bonuses.
Indian Territories are killer neutrals starting with two men.

http://h1.ripway.com/industhelix/final.xml

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XML V 0.1

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
<positions>
</positions>
<continent>
<name>Georgia</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Chattahoochee</territory>
<territory>Ocmulgee</territory>
<territory>Savannah</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>South Carolina</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Charles Town</territory>
<territory>Camden</territory>
<territory>Fort Prince George</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>North Carolina</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Wilmington</territory>
<territory>Raleigh</territory>
<territory>Halifax</territory>
<territory>Guildford Courthouse</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Virginia</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Yorktown</territory>
<territory>Roanoke</territory>
<territory>Arlington</territory>
<territory>Appalachia</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Maryland</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Baltimore</territory>
<territory>St. Mary</territory>
<territory>Delmarva</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Delaware</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Delaware</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Pennsylvania</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Valley Forge</territory>
<territory>Fort Pitt</territory>
<territory>Allegheny</territory>
<territory>Philadelphia</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>New Jersey</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Burlington</territory>
<territory>Trenton</territory>
<territory>Fort Lee</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>New York</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Long Island</territory>
<territory>New York</territory>
<territory>Saratoga</territory>
<territory>Bemis Heights</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Connecticut</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Connecticut</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Rhode Island</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Rhode Island</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Massachusetts</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Bunker Hill</territory>
<territory>Cape Cod</territory>
<territory>Castine</territory>
<territory>Massachusetts Bay</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>New Hampshire</name>
<bonus>0</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Exeter</territory>
<territory>Winnipesaukee</territory>
<territory>Coos</territory>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
<required></required>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>2 colonies</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<continent>Georgia</continent>
<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
<continent>New Jersey</continent>
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<continent>Connecticut</continent>
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<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
</components>
<overrides>
</overrides>
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<continent>
<name>3 colonies</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
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<continent>Georgia</continent>
<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
<continent>New Jersey</continent>
<continent>New York</continent>
<continent>Connecticut</continent>
<continent>Rhode Island</continent>
<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
</components>
<overrides>
<override>2 colonies</override>
</overrides>
<required>3</required>
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<continent>
<name>4 colonies</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
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<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
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<continent>New York</continent>
<continent>Connecticut</continent>
<continent>Rhode Island</continent>
<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
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<overrides>
<override>2 colonies</override>
<override>3 colonies</override>
</overrides>
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<continent>
<name>5 colonies</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
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<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
<continent>New Jersey</continent>
<continent>New York</continent>
<continent>Connecticut</continent>
<continent>Rhode Island</continent>
<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
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<continent>
<name>6 colonies</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
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<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
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<continent>New York</continent>
<continent>Connecticut</continent>
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<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
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<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
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<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
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<continent>Connecticut</continent>
<continent>Rhode Island</continent>
<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
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<bonus>9</bonus>
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<continent>South Carolina</continent>
<continent>North Carolina</continent>
<continent>Virginia</continent>
<continent>Maryland</continent>
<continent>Delaware</continent>
<continent>Pennsylvania</continent>
<continent>New Jersey</continent>
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<continent>Connecticut</continent>
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<continent>Massachusetts</continent>
<continent>New Hampshire</continent>
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<smally>558</smally>
<largex>117</largex>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
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</borders>
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</bombardments>
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<smally>536</smally>
<largex>62</largex>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<name>Savannah</name>
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<border>Ocmulgee</border>
<border>Chattahoochee</border>
<border>Tybee Roads</border>
<border>Charles Town</border>
<border>Fort Prince George</border>
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</bombardments>
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<smally>522</smally>
<largex>136</largex>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<name>Charles Town</name>
<borders>
<border>Savannah</border>
<border>Camden</border>
<border>Fort Prince George</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>504</smally>
<largex>161</largex>
<largey>663</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
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<name>Fort Prince George</name>
<borders>
<border>Savannah</border>
<border>Shawnee Territory</border>
<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
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</bombardments>
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<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<border>Fort Prince George</border>
<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
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</bombardments>
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<smally>460</smally>
<largex>191</largex>
<largey>605</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
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<border>Fort Prince George</border>
<border>Roanoke</border>
<border>Halifax</border>
<border>Raleigh</border>
<border>Wilmington</border>
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<smally>406</smally>
<largex>181</largex>
<largey>530</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Wilmington</name>
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<border>Camden</border>
<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
<border>Raleigh</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
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<smally>417</smally>
<largex>260</largex>
<largey>543</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Raleigh</name>
<borders>
<border>Wilmington</border>
<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
<border>Halifax</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smallx>192</smallx>
<smally>377</smally>
<largex>262</largex>
<largey>495</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<territory>
<name>Halifax</name>
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<border>Raleigh</border>
<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
<border>Roanoke</border>
<border>Yorktown</border>
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<largex>254</largex>
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<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<border>Guildford Courthouse</border>
<border>Appalachia</border>
<border>Arlington</border>
<border>Yorktown</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>335</smally>
<largex>199</largex>
<largey>442</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Yorktown</name>
<borders>
<border>Halifax</border>
<border>Roanoke</border>
<border>Arlington</border>
<border>Chesapeake Bay</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>325</smally>
<largex>268</largex>
<largey>426</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Arlington</name>
<borders>
<border>Yorktown</border>
<border>Roanoke</border>
<border>Appalachia</border>
<border>Baltimore</border>
<border>St. Mary</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>287</smally>
<largex>248</largex>
<largey>378</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Appalachia</name>
<borders>
<border>Roanoke</border>
<border>Baltimore</border>
<border>Arlington</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<smally>296</smally>
<largex>188</largex>
<largey>387</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Baltimore</name>
<borders>
<border>Appalachia</border>
<border>Fort Pitt</border>
<border>Valley Forge</border>
<border>Delaware</border>
<border>Delmarva</border>
<border>St. Mary</border>
<border>Arlington</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>263</smally>
<largex>196</largex>
<largey>341</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>St. Mary</name>
<borders>
<border>Arlington</border>
<border>Baltimore</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<largex>277</largex>
<largey>351</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Delmarva</name>
<borders>
<border>Delaware</border>
<border>Baltimore</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<smally>293</smally>
<largex>332</largex>
<largey>386</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Delaware</name>
<borders>
<border>Delmarva</border>
<border>Baltimore</border>
<border>Valley Forge</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Burlington</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<smally>274</smally>
<largex>337</largex>
<largey>361</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Fort Pitt</name>
<borders>
<border>Baltimore</border>
<border>Shawnee Territory</border>
<border>Allegheny</border>
<border>Valley Forge</border>
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<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<smally>237</smally>
<largex>202</largex>
<largey>286</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Allegheny</name>
<borders>
<border>Fort Pitt</border>
<border>Algonkin Territory</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Valley Forge</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
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<largey>248</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Philadelphia</name>
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<border>Valley Forge</border>
<border>Delaware</border>
<border>Allegheny</border>
<border>Saratoga</border>
<border>New York</border>
<border>Fort Lee</border>
<border>Trenton</border>
<border>Burlington</border>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Valley Forge</name>
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<border>Fort Pitt</border>
<border>Allegheny</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Delaware</border>
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<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
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<territory>
<name>Burlington</name>
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<border>Delaware</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Trenton</border>
</borders>
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<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Trenton</name>
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<border>Burlington</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Fort Lee</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Fort Lee</name>
<borders>
<border>Trenton</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>New York</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Long Island</name>
<borders>
<border>Brooklyn Heights</border>
<border>New York</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>196</smally>
<largex>393</largex>
<largey>255</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>New York</name>
<borders>
<border>Long Island</border>
<border>Fort Lee</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Saratoga</border>
<border>Connecticut</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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<smally>182</smally>
<largex>356</largex>
<largey>234</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
<bonus></bonus>
</territory>
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<name>Saratoga</name>
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<border>New York</border>
<border>Philadelphia</border>
<border>Bemis Heights</border>
<border>Bunker Hill</border>
<border>Connecticut</border>
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</territory>
<territory>
<name>Bemis Heights</name>
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<border>Saratoga</border>
<border>Bunker Hill</border>
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<bombardments>
</bombardments>
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</coordinates>
<neutral></neutral>
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Re: American Revolution

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:07 am

I like it, great start.

One thing, the bonuses are way overvalued.

New England should be 3
Continent right below it should be 4
Continent with Pennsylvania+Maryland should be 5
Below that should be 4
Bottomost continent should be 3

Hmmm, you also need continent names somewhere...

PS. Oh and the bonus for holding all ships should be a 4
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Re: American Revolution

Postby InsomniaRed on Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:52 pm

Ohh I love this. Can't wait to see it develop!

So with the British Canada auto-deploy, it starts as neutral, correct? How many?

I agree with Ink about the changes in bonuses, right now they are too big.

I really like the size of the map and the design.

PS - Killer neutrals are fun :D
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Re: American Revolution

Postby The Neon Peon on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:37 pm

graphics are amazing for a new map.
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Re: American Revolution

Postby sailorseal on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:51 pm

I say include Britain as a group of ships or something besides Canada.
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Re: American Revolution

Postby MrBenn on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:05 pm

Having taken a while to load up (tired computer), it looks like you've made a good start here ;-)
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Re: American Revolution

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:18 pm

I love looking through old maps on this site... http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... 763-76.jpg

And found one that you may have already looked upon, but perhaps it could be of some use. Perhaps instead of "Wilderness" you could incorporate Native American Lands.


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Re: American Revolution

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:19 am

As far as the bonuses are concerned, I ran the numbers through one of those spreadsheets and these are the numbers it gave me. Perhaps if I knocked all bonuses down by 1? Or I could try a different spreadsheet.

Inkcl0sed - You're right about naming the continent's, Ink. Totally slipped my mind.

InsomniaRed - Well, I was thinking about letting British Canada fall into the lap of one lucky player. My reasoning is this: The armies of the Congress had a major problem up north with British garrison's. Allowing for a player to accumulate up there brings this concern to the minds of the other players. The difficulty of the Canadian base is that it has to go through a whole bunch of killer neutrals to be effective or determine what goes on in the colonies.

I'm definitely open to suggestion on that though. Perhaps I should host a poll and see what everyone thinks.

Neon - Thanks!

Sailorseal - Britain is included in the ships over to the left. The ships all link up to a historical event during the Revolutionary War. For example, Boston is where the blockade took place and where the British retreated to Nova Scotia after Bunker Hill. Brooklyn Heights are where the British invaded at, I believe there was a naval engagement at Virginia Capes (French an British) and Charlestown was an invasion point for the British (and also retreat).

So Britain is pretty well represented, especially with Canada up there an its auto deployment. I just don't think there's much room to fit England onto this map. Especially considering England had (relatively) little to do with the revolution in comparison with the Colonial troops that were already stationed on the N. American continent. By 1788 The British were in full war with France anyway, so they had bigger fish to fry, and sending infantry or even many ships to N America was really a ludicrous idea considering giant France was right across the channel.

Mr. Benn - Thanks. When you said it took long to load for a second I was worried that my map was too big of a file. Not that I'm glad your computer is slow, but yeah...

AndyDufresne - That's a good idea an I think I'll use it. I took a look at the map you linked up an I can't find any Indian names, short of a few forts or what have you. Maybe you're eyes are better than mine and I'm not looking in the right place...
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby redhawk92 on Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:10 pm

i love the map
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Re: American Revolution

Postby bryguy on Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:21 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I love looking through old maps on this site... http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... 763-76.jpg

And found one that you may have already looked upon, but perhaps it could be of some use. Perhaps instead of "Wilderness" you could incorporate Native American Lands.


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I know, its so much fun, I do it when I have time :)


Having personally attempted a revolutionary war map 2 times, I wish you the best of luck with this, and I think you've finally come across a good way to do this :)

1) The grunge (I think its grunge above everything, looks like it to me) needs to be lowered in opacity a bit IMO
2) Maybe add some grunge (or whatever you used) to the mini-map also?
3) Maybe ships can bombard? lol random idea xD

I wish you the best of luck with this map, as kyle said...
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:49 am

It's a very pretty map and I like it.

But is it only me, or does this map not really feel like a Revolutionary War map? To me it just looks like a map of New England. I'm not a mapmaker or anything, but isn't there a way to incorporate something more "Revolutiony?" Adding forts, cities, Vally Forge, governers, tories, frontersmen, Indians, prison ships, anything... I dunno.... maybe just some pictures or short history lesson about the map.....
But for a new map it is quite beautiful. Looks wise it's playable.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby barterer2002 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:25 am

I think you're putting too much power in the British Garrison. Not only does it auto deploy one each turn but the terts that can attack into it auto kill to 3N each turn.

I have to say that I think Juan Bottom is totally off point. My initial reaction was that this map slanted more towards the southern states. I'd like to see possibly York (which is where the Colonial government fled when the British invaded Philadelphia) added to Pennsylvania, maybe the Green Mountains added in as a tert in NY.

The other thing I might do, you've got about 6 states that are split up so that they're not named and then 7 that are named as the state (Mass, NH, NJ, Md, Del, Con, RI). Perhaps naming them after things that are in the state/colony rather than after the colony itself to keep the same feel throughout. Mass could easily be Bunker Hill or Concord or Lexington (or split into 2 of these). New Jersey could be the Hessian army being surprised at Trenton, for DE, if you can't find something you could take a slight creative liberty and move the Battle of Brandywine 6 miles over the border to DE but I suspect there is something there-or you could just do Wilmington.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:58 pm

From top to bottom, I'd say something like: 3, 4, 4, 5, 4, 3, ships - 4. But it's only another suggestion. I don't really know, that could be too little.

Also, I really don't know about the unfair 'luck' drop of the +1 territory. Maybe if you leave it neutral the reward could be a +2 if someone gets through the neutrals to get there. But then again, I like it as a +1. Still not sure yet about having it be a lucky drop terr.

Overall, I agree with the other comments, and this is a great start.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby bryguy on Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:01 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:Also, I really don't know about the unfair 'luck' drop of the +1 territory. Maybe if you leave it neutral the reward could be a +2 if someone gets through the neutrals to get there. But then again, I like it as a +1. Still not sure yet about having it be a lucky drop terr.


I like the idea of leaving it neutral with a bonus of +1 (or +2), or what if its deployed on that territory?
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:11 pm

bryguy wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:Also, I really don't know about the unfair 'luck' drop of the +1 territory. Maybe if you leave it neutral the reward could be a +2 if someone gets through the neutrals to get there. But then again, I like it as a +1. Still not sure yet about having it be a lucky drop terr.


I like the idea of leaving it neutral with a bonus of +1 (or +2), or what if its deployed on that territory?



Oh sorry, I wasn't very clear in my post, I see that now :? I meant a +1 or +2 as an autodeploy not a bonus. But I still like the idea of it starting neutral.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby RjBeals on Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:23 pm

Excellent first draft. Way to go Helix.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby ustus on Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:40 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:
bryguy wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:Also, I really don't know about the unfair 'luck' drop of the +1 territory. Maybe if you leave it neutral the reward could be a +2 if someone gets through the neutrals to get there. But then again, I like it as a +1. Still not sure yet about having it be a lucky drop terr.


I like the idea of leaving it neutral with a bonus of +1 (or +2), or what if its deployed on that territory?



Oh sorry, I wasn't very clear in my post, I see that now :? I meant a +1 or +2 as an autodeploy not a bonus. But I still like the idea of it starting neutral.


i gotta say, i don't think i'd ever take a territory that auto deploys which is always going to be separated from the rest of the map by neutrals, especially since, by the time i have the troops to take both the killer neutral terit and the autodeploying terit, i'll be the one who controls all the terits it could possibly reach! i don't think it makes sense to have it start neutral... but maybe that's just me, I'm not really that good a strategician... :?
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby InsomniaRed on Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:06 am

ustus wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:
bryguy wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:Also, I really don't know about the unfair 'luck' drop of the +1 territory. Maybe if you leave it neutral the reward could be a +2 if someone gets through the neutrals to get there. But then again, I like it as a +1. Still not sure yet about having it be a lucky drop terr.


I like the idea of leaving it neutral with a bonus of +1 (or +2), or what if its deployed on that territory?



Oh sorry, I wasn't very clear in my post, I see that now :? I meant a +1 or +2 as an autodeploy not a bonus. But I still like the idea of it starting neutral.


i gotta say, i don't think i'd ever take a territory that auto deploys which is always going to be separated from the rest of the map by neutrals, especially since, by the time i have the troops to take both the killer neutral terit and the autodeploying terit, i'll be the one who controls all the terits it could possibly reach! i don't think it makes sense to have it start neutral... but maybe that's just me, I'm not really that good a strategician... :?


You know...now that you mention it...that makes sense. I mean the killer neutrals surrounding it are a bit of a turn off, if you know what I mean. I guess we'll just see how this develops and see what the mapmaker wants to do and if anyone else has better suggestions. :-k
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:20 am

When I think of the American Revolution, I do not envision a map like this. You have to remember that the states did not look like they do today, well some of them at least. Note the Pink Highlighted areas..

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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby perchorin on Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:52 am

Is this map still being worked on? It looks like a good one, hope I can play it someday!
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:06 am

At the moment I'm being overwhelmed by essays for school, but those hsould be turned in mid-week next week and I'll be able to put more attention towards this map. I'm about halfway through a revision draft in which a few graphics parts are cleaned up and the Wilderness territories have been renamed to match Indian tribes. There's a few more things I want to alter on it and then I'll post it. So hopefully, expect an updated draft later next week.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:06 pm

[Moved]

It would appear that development of this map has stalled. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the CAs will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made. ;-)
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:56 pm

Ok, update time!

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I changed the Wilderness to Indian territories

Reduced bonuses by 1

Changed the names of New Jersey and Massachusetts

Couldn't figure out what to change Del. to, I thought Wilmington would work bc I can abbreviate it but I've already got a Wilmington. Any help appreciated.

I cleaned up various graphics spots that I had noticed, if anyone notices any more be sure to say something.

Thinking about changing it to 13 colonies map over American revolution as some have pointed out it doesn't exactly have a whole lot of special features revolving around the revolution... thoughts?

Not sure what to do about British Canada, see poll... err... mods can you reset the poll please?
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:57 pm

I like it, what is wrong with delaware though? Why does it have to be renamed? I thonk you should add some french ships too, because the french did become important. Also, that would make the map less thin, which I personaly think is kinda odd about this map.
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Re: American Revolution *Poll*

Postby MrBenn on Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:42 am

[moved]

And here are the Poll Results:


How should bonuses be decided?

Reduce by 1 on everything... 8... 73%
Run it in a different spreadsheet... 0... No votes
It's fine the way it is. No one will ever hold the Carolinas... 1... 9%
I have a suggestion! (Please write below)... 0... No votes
Top to bottom: 3, 4, 5, 4, 3 (ships at 4)... 2... 18%

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