Forbidden City [Quenched]

[The Neon Peon]

This map has so many territs fit into such a small space, not saying it is a good or bad thing just saying it

Then why say anything at all?

[bbqpenguin]

shouldn't empress' palace be empress's?
unless the chamber belonged to multiple empresses?

in which case, shouldn't emperor's be emperors'?

[iancanton]

the palace belongs to only one empress at a time. i believe empress' and empress's can both be used to mean "of the empress", while empresses' means "of the empresses". i tend to use empress's myself when speaking, even though it's less clear.

ian.

[GenuineEarlGrey]

E.G. I have to ask....aren't you able to follow lines and corridors on a map and thus determine that they are borders with other territories?
I am sorry that you found that map confusing. but really there is nothing confusing about it; it just requires a bit of thinking about.

After three or four games....

• I still like the map.
• I'm getting a better idea how the corridors / colours / doors link
• I'm still finding the odd occasion where my interpretation of the key / map instructions doesn't follow what I can do with the map.
• I will try again.
• There isn't one.

E.G.

[e_i_pi]

Okay, I haven't read through all the posts here, so apologies if this has been raised cairns.

I am playing a doubles 6 player game on this map (Game 4884171), and found a weird forting thing going on. I was able to fort along the Meridian despite not owning any Emperors...

2009-05-31 09:14:59 - e_i_pi reinforced Japan with 1 troops from Hall of Preserving Harmony

Now, I didn't hold anything along the Meridian, aside from the north gates. So I guess the chain was...

Hall of Preserving Harmony ->
Shenwu Men West ->
Russia ->
Japan

But, the instructinos on the side say...

Emperors can attack territories along or bordering yellow Imperial Meridian & vice versa

To me, this means Emperors can attack along the Meridian, and territories along the Meridian can attack Emperors. But it doesn't imply that territories along the Meridian can attack other (non-adjacent) territories along the Meridian (which would explain why I could fort along the Meridian).

Is this an oversight in the instructions, an XML problem, or a chain fort code problem?

[cairnswk]

Okay, I haven't read through all the posts here, so apologies if this has been raised cairns.

I am playing a doubles 6 player game on this map (Game 4884171), and found a weird forting thing going on. I was able to fort along the Meridian despite not owning any Emperors...

2009-05-31 09:14:59 - e_i_pi reinforced Japan with 1 troops from Hall of Preserving Harmony

Now, I didn't hold anything along the Meridian, aside from the north gates. So I guess the chain was...

Hall of Preserving Harmony ->
Shenwu Men West ->
Russia ->
Japan

But, the instructinos on the side say...

Emperors can attack territories along or bordering yellow Imperial Meridian & vice versa

To me, this means Emperors can attack along the Meridian, and territories along the Meridian can attack Emperors. But it doesn't imply that territories along the Meridian can attack other (non-adjacent) territories along the Meridian (which would explain why I could fort along the Meridian).

Is this an oversight in the instructions, an XML problem, or a chain fort code problem?

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2009-06-02 00:03:01 - saito hadjime assaulted Emps. T'zu-hsi from Wu Men and conquered it from e_i_pi

this tells me that you held this old bird who borders Shenwu Men West which probably enabled you to fort Japan thru Russia, yes? If this is the case, this is not bad, that old dear had her fingers in so many foreign pies....

[e_i_pi]

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2009-06-02 00:03:01 - saito hadjime assaulted Emps. T'zu-hsi from Wu Men and conquered it from e_i_pi

this tells me that you held this old bird who borders Shenwu Men West which probably enabled you to fort Japan thru Russia, yes? If this is the case, this is not bad, that old dear had her fingers in so many foreign pies....

Doh yes I did have the Empress. Sorry cairns, false alarm. My teammate was meant to take that off me the moment I forted him the stack

[e_i_pi]

The border between Yo and Cheng either needs to be taken out, or needs to be able to be seen. I recently got screwed in a game because I couldn't make out the border, which is almost imperceptable due to the Meridian line

[iancanton]

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2009-06-02 00:03:01 - saito hadjime assaulted Emps. T'zu-hsi from Wu Men and conquered it from e_i_pi

the xml needs to have the empress' name changed from t'zu-hsi to tz'u hsi to match both the map and the historic spelling.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/612105/Cixi

ian.

[cairnswk]

The border between Yo and Cheng either needs to be taken out, or needs to be able to be seen. I recently got screwed in a game because I couldn't make out the border, which is almost imperceptable due to the Meridian line

To solve this i've added an arrow between the two...

Click image to enlarge.

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2009-06-02 00:03:01 - saito hadjime assaulted Emps. T'zu-hsi from Wu Men and conquered it from e_i_pi

the xml needs to have the empress' name changed from t'zu-hsi to tz'u hsi to match both the map and the historic spelling.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/612105/Cixi

ian.

adjusted as per below

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/forbidden_city_240410.xml

[cairnswk]

Adjusted Files for uploading....thanks MrBenn.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... _V30Sa.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... _V30La.jpg

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/forbidden_city_240410.xml

[Faro]

I have a question for you on this map in order to be sure I understand how it works for the corridors:

- I can go true only one border indicators right?

Example:
USA can attack France but cannot attack Germany.
USA can attack Inland Mission but not Christian?

Emp Pu Yi can only attack KTM Army or it's like for the door you can go true 2 borders?

But overall that map is fun and interesting to play on.

[MrBenn]

I have a question for you on this map in order to be sure I understand how it works for the corridors:

- I can go true only one border indicators right?

Example:
USA can attack France but cannot attack Germany.
USA can attack Inland Mission but not Christian?

Emp Pu Yi can only attack KTM Army or it's like for the door you can go true 2 borders?

But overall that map is fun and interesting to play on.

Yes - you are right. The borders can be confusing unless you look carefully.

USA borders (and can attack) France, Britain and Inland Mission.

Emp Pu Yi borders (and can attack) KTM Army, Emps Tzu-Hsi, and all the territories along the yellow/orange line up the middle of the map, including Shenwu Men East and Shenwu Men West.