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Re: World Cities

Postby sully800 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:59 pm

I just had an interesting thought. Most of the cities that have previously been made into maps are currently included in my map (which makes sense because notable cities will commonly become maps over smaller cities). I could adjust some of the current territories to match existing maps (LA becomes San Fran, Atlanta becomes Charleston, etc) and then have a 42 map pack eventually :lol:

Maps that match my cities or could:

Perth could become Cairns
Atlanta = Charleston
Berlin 1961
Hong Kong
Montreal
NYC
Honolulu = Pearl Harbour
Prohibition Chicago
LA = San Fran
Sydney Metro

Is it worth changing those territories to slightly smaller cities so they match an existing map? That could make for a great tournament eventually!

Other areas that are mapped and only represented by one city
Ancient Greece = Athens
British Isles = London
Circus Maximus = Rome
Egypt Lower = Cairo
France = Paris
Iceland = Reykjavik
Indochina = Singapore
Middle East = Dubai
Phillipines = Quezon City/Manila


That's 19/42 territories without having to make any stretches! Interesting... :-k
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Re: World Cities

Postby tlane on Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:53 pm

That sounds like a really good idea!
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Re: World Cities

Postby Tisha on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:21 am

you should make the width 630.. it looks like you could use the space
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Re: World Cities

Postby iancanton on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:42 am

sully

have u run this one past andy already? i ask because this is a map of the world, with geographical continent bonuses and 42 areas where u can place armies. when classic shapes and classic art were introduced, great care was taken for the new maps not to be direct representations of a world map. if nothing has changed since that time, then world cities seems to fall foul of this principle.

ian. :)
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Re: World Cities

Postby sailorseal on Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:07 pm

Lobster Crush wrote:I like it. I'm tempted to start nitpicking about which cities are included, but other than that it's a solid idea.

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I agree there is one city in Australia that I feel needs to be included and a few more in Asia
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Re: World Cities

Postby SultanOfSurreal on Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:21 pm

I think instead of Denver, Las Vegas would be a more interesting city to include. It's certainly more of a "world city" than Denver is.

Casablanca should also be included for sure.

Instead of Athens, Istanbul. And where's Moscow?

All of Asia is too empty really. Perhaps include Seoul and/or Pyongyang?

Instead of Quezon City, perhaps the only city on the map I'd never heard of, maybe include Jakarta?

I love the idea, sorry to throw so many cities out there. Of all these suggestions, I feel most strongly about replacing Denver with Las Vegas. Las Vegas is distinct, Denver is just another midwestern city.
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Re: World Cities

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:28 pm

SultanOfSurreal wrote:Instead of Quezon City, perhaps the only city on the map I'd never heard of, maybe include Jakarta?


Perhaps manila? But perhaps Quezon City is important and I'm just ignant.
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Re: World Cities

Postby sully800 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:15 pm

Tisha wrote:you should make the width 630.. it looks like you could use the space


Is 630 allowed? I thought that was the old limit but current guides all say 600 px :-s
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Re: World Cities

Postby sully800 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:25 pm

SultanOfSurreal wrote:I think instead of Denver, Las Vegas would be a more interesting city to include. It's certainly more of a "world city" than Denver is.

Casablanca should also be included for sure.

Instead of Athens, Istanbul. And where's Moscow?

All of Asia is too empty really. Perhaps include Seoul and/or Pyongyang?

Instead of Quezon City, perhaps the only city on the map I'd never heard of, maybe include Jakarta?

I love the idea, sorry to throw so many cities out there. Of all these suggestions, I feel most strongly about replacing Denver with Las Vegas. Las Vegas is distinct, Denver is just another midwestern city.


Las Vegas is a good idea, and close enough to Denver that it should work. I wouldn't say Denver is just another city, but I agree Las Vegas is more major.

Moscow will be coming to Europe as I shift the Eurasia border over, I guess at the elimination of Rome which is currently too crowded.

Seoul was on my list but the area is too tight already. I'm thinking of sticking with Russian territories since that is the empty part.

Jakarta is also too close to Singapore, which is why I wanted a territory from the Philippines but it can be switched to Manila.


Ian:
I have not spoken with Andy about this map. I understand the concern about copyright issues, but this map is very different than the Classic map was. All original artwork is the most noticeable chance, but also all places for armies are cities and not countries which makes it inherently unique IMO. The layout by its very nature will become original because it is based on existing cities. If I am asked to stop development I will understand, though I think it will be a shame! (Also, I would not say that "great care" was taken with Classic Shapes or Classic Art. Those maps were hack jobs and the fact that they remain on the site in their current state is an atrocity ;) )
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Re: World Cities

Postby GrimReaper. on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:27 pm

should cario attack Athens??
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Re: World Cities

Postby Astoria on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:32 am

Nice work so far!

1)You already mentioned that there will be Moscow on your next version, it is good. But if it is going to be too many cities than you originally thought, - just put Moscow instead of St.Petersburg, you don't even need to change any connections. But there is no doubt that Moscow is far beyond St. Petersburg is all the fields except cultural where due to Peter the Great there are many great places to visit in our North "Capital", which St.Petersburg is called quite often on radio.

2) I'm surprised to see Budapest there and no Berlin. How come?

3) In Asia, where you have a connection line between Astana and Tokyo russian seaport Vladivostok should work great, it is right where you need it i bet, just make sure it is at the shore.
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Re: World Cities

Postby Joodoo on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:51 am

1.Include two more cities:Lagos and Buenos Aires
2.Would it possible for Cairo and Dubai to become adjacent?
2.Is there a way to make it more clear that Athens belongs to Europe only (unless you want it to a transcontinental territory)?
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Re: World Cities

Postby ManBungalow on Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:22 am

iancanton wrote:sully

have u run this one past andy already? i ask because this is a map of the world, with geographical continent bonuses and 42 areas where u can place armies. when classic shapes and classic art were introduced, great care was taken for the new maps not to be direct representations of a world map. if nothing has changed since that time, then world cities seems to fall foul of this principle.

ian. :)

I think you've got a point there. I'm thinking that we could get away with this if we're lucky; we can still play World 2.1 after all (for now).

ManBungalow wrote:This looks like the kind of classical map.

Incidentally, nobody noticed my hint :(
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Re: World Cities

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:52 pm

I'd suggest swapping Rio for Sao Paulo. According to my unreliable memory, Sao Paolo is the biggest city in Brazil.
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Re: World Cities

Postby yeti_c on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:11 pm

Personally - I can't see any reason why this would fall foul of Copyright...

However I wouldn't bother asking Andy - Ask Lack... he'll give you the yay or nay up front.

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