Castle Lands [Quenched]

[PLAYER57832]

I like this map a lot!

A minor tweak, though.

There is a brown spot just to the right of the East Bridge that makes it seem as if the bridge is connected to the brown section as well as Woodland. This is the only one that is not clear.

[hatchman]

I think it's a very clever map... Now how many forced neutrals? Nine? Do we really need them?

[Seulessliathan]

I think it's a very clever map... Now how many forced neutrals? Nine? Do we really need them?

what about making the bridge neutrals 2´s?

[iancanton]

reducing the bridge neutrals to 2 each is possible. at the moment, about half of 1v1 games finish with no bridges captured. we must start all bridges neutral because this is an essential part of the gameplay design for this map.

however, we have a more pressing problem in 2-player games. player 1 starts with 12 regions and a deployment of 4 troops so, by winning only 1 region from player 2, he secures an immediate advantage, cutting player 2's starting deployment to only 3 troops. also in 2-player games, the castle is almost never captured, for example Game 4992779.

we can stop these two things from happening if we code the 4 towers as start positions and not the 8 courts. if we do this, then there will be only 5 regions that are forced to start neutral: the tower and 4 bridges.

ian.

[Mr_Adams]

I disagree. I'm in about a dozen of these games right now and I find the neutral towers to be the best possible turn 1 card territory half the time.

[thenobodies80]

reducing the bridge neutrals to 2 each is possible.

Agreed

however, we have a more pressing problem in 2-player games. player 1 starts with 12 regions and a deployment of 4 troops so, by winning only 1 region from player 2, he secures an immediate advantage, cutting player 2's starting deployment to only 3 troops. also in 2-player games, the castle is almost never captured, for example Game 4992779.

we can stop these two things from happening if we code the 4 towers as start positions and not the 8 courts. if we do this, then there will be only 5 regions that are forced to start neutral: the tower and 4 bridges.

ian.

About this i'm confused, you're saying to set the 4 towers as starting position instead of courts?
Why there's a tower as starting neutral?

[iancanton]

well spotted, that man! if we set as start positions the towers instead of the courts, then the castle and 4 bridges will be forced to start neutral.

ian.

[thenobodies80]

I'll talk with Pikkio about these changes...
thank you guys!

[MrBenn]

The courts are set as starting positions because there are 8 of them, which ensures that everybody has an equal chance of getting the castle/courts in ANY game-type.

[Hopscotcher]

I played a game and I think it said that I could assault The Ridge from Coppiece. I didn't try it, because that is not where I wanted to attack, but you might want to check that out.

Fun Map!

ttfn,
Hops

[thenobodies80]

I played a game and I think it said that I could assault The Ridge from Coppiece. I didn't try it, because that is not where I wanted to attack, but you might want to check that out.

Fun Map!

ttfn,
Hops

Where do we write that?

Towers and catapults with the same coloured flag can bombard each other

[OlJock99]

I agree with the 12 region comment. That's my biggest beef with the Siege Map. Getting rid of 2 neutrals would help a ton.

[Hopscotcher]

I played a game and I think it said that I could assault The Ridge from Coppiece. I didn't try it, because that is not where I wanted to attack, but you might want to check that out.

Fun Map!

ttfn,
Hops

Where do we write that?

Towers and catapults with the same coloured flag can bombard each other

Coppiece is yellow. Ridge is red.

[Hopscotcher]

I agree with the 12 region comment. That's my biggest beef with the Siege Map. Getting rid of 2 neutrals would help a ton.

Perhaps the Catapults start off as Neuts as well?

[Mr_Adams]

8 for the courts seems excesive. why not 6?