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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby MrBenn on Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:22 pm

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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby jefjef on Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:38 pm

Long island can and should also be an area. Historically the english landed there and washington withdrew to the main land. also I think british canada (3 areas) should not be worth 6... 4 at most... =D>
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby Industrial Helix on Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:32 pm

I think I'm pretty happy about dropping the British Canada bonus, to be honest, and don't see it coming back.

As for using Long Island as a terr., that's not a bad idea, I just wonder if there's space between New York and the ship. I'll play around with it and see if its possible.
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby ustus on Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:46 pm

could you just move the ship a little to make room? you don't have to find room if you can make it.
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby targetman377 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:04 pm

i really like this idea i think its a great map. and i can not wait to play it
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby josta59 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:56 pm

'Bout time we got the Revolution on up in heah!
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:38 am

Ok, semi-update...

First off, thanks everyone who's expressed excitement with this map!

Secondly,

I played with the ship and Long Island. The terr. fits in there reasonably well. I'll keep playing with it, but it definitely belongs there.

I also tried playing with the glow around the indiv. colonies to designate the original 13.... not going well at all. In this pic you can see it around New Jersey and New York. I tried playing with the border color as well.. not pretty. So thoughts or ideas regarding that would be appreciated.

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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:59 am

The only thing that bothers me with this map is it's historical accuracy. First off, this is called the 13 American colonies, but there are only 6. If i remember correctly, the 13 original colonies were Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire. I know that you have to make decisions based on the gameplay aspect, but i think it would be better if this was a little more historically accurate. Also, why not just name Bunker hill Massechussettes?
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:23 am

Led -

Yeah, I know what you mean. i'm trying to work that out at the moment, see the poll and above discussion. One of the possibilities was to have a bonus for each colony in addition to the existing regional bonuses... I'm having trouble working that out graphically though. It's possible that i might just abandon the regional bonuses and go for a bonus for each colony, giving each its own color region, ect. I'm going to wait until thepoll ends on the 14th before making the final decision. Stay tuned for future updates.

As for the names of each colony, when this started out as an American Rev. map, I had the names reflect the battles fought there. As this map is going towards a 13 colonies approach rather than American Rev. i will change many of the names probably with the next update.

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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:40 pm

That is surely coming along. Good work thus far. :)

I like the general graphical theme you have going on the map. It's clean, crisp, smooth---albeit flat. Very flat.

Anyways, the ships, however, don't seem to reflect the type of graphical theme you have in the rest of the map (comparing it to the texture of the land/water, the tree icons, and the upper scroll legend). I suppose the same could even be said for the lower legend as well. There seems to be two different, though somewhat similar I give you, competing visual styles in the map.

Hm, when I first looked at this update of the map, I first thought: emptiness. The center area of the map is jam-packed, and then the right and left "border" areas almost look strangely sparse (especially the left area).

I see you mentioned you were experimenting with border styles---the current option you have right now is very simple. Could be a good thing, could be a bad thing. Depends on how the map progresses graphically---if that is the direction that map is headed in perhaps they are fine---if not, perhaps they feel a little underdone.

Keep up the good work.


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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby jefjef on Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:08 pm

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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby riodeishere on Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:34 pm

this seems to be a great idea, and the drafts have improved massively. the work so far is brilliant.
the only thing is that the bonus of each area is un-proportional. but that will be sorted once (if) it becomes beta.
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby whitestazn88 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:37 pm

the update looks good, i like the addition of long island

here's my most recent thought on the indian territories. at this point, if i were playing the game, i'd rather take the boats than an indian territory, because my opponents are holding the boats, and the boats can then attack bonuses that are too far away.

to make the indian territories more viable, i'd put them in as neutral 2s and then maybe make them have a bonus of +1 or 2 as you said earlier.

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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:05 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Led -

Yeah, I know what you mean. i'm trying to work that out at the moment, see the poll and above discussion. One of the possibilities was to have a bonus for each colony in addition to the existing regional bonuses... I'm having trouble working that out graphically though. It's possible that i might just abandon the regional bonuses and go for a bonus for each colony, giving each its own color region, ect. I'm going to wait until thepoll ends on the 14th before making the final decision. Stay tuned for future updates.

As for the names of each colony, when this started out as an American Rev. map, I had the names reflect the battles fought there. As this map is going towards a 13 colonies approach rather than American Rev. i will change many of the names probably with the next update.

Thanks for the feedback!

ok...
as for the regional bonuses, you could do it as the three i learned about in history class this year. New England, The Middle, and The South. You could have every colony as one territory, in which case you would have 13 territories, then you could add more boats, to add territories, and eliminate the straightness. Keep the british canada, but maybe also add some native american territories.

I think that your graphics are really good. but i think all that needs work is the historical accuracy, and the gameplay.
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Re: The 13 American Colonies *New Poll, 5/31/09*

Postby jefjef on Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:33 am

You know what.... as few territories as there are on this map it may be best to have each state as its own bonus.OR increase # of bonus areas (like split New England & the Carolinas& make Maryland & deleware its own region & add a baltimore area to it. & put Trenton w/ Penn)...The value could reflect the historical population & economic value of the day...... Be a lot of bonuses but all would be small....And shouldn't a ship actually connect to Yorktown? It would play well & is relative historically
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