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mibi wrote:I would love to see some rankings on which maps are popular and which have largely failed to attract the publics attention.
The Neon Peon wrote:An easy method to determine popularity is: (number of games on the map)/(days the map has been available to play).
It would be interesting to see the results.
mibi wrote:that is still skewed towards smaller maps as a player can start and finsh 10 doodle games in the same period of time they start and finish 3 supermax games.
Incandenza wrote:mibi wrote:that is still skewed towards smaller maps as a player can start and finsh 10 doodle games in the same period of time they start and finish 3 supermax games.
Seems like there could be some sort of variable that takes into account map size: .5 for tiny maps, 1.5 for huge maps.
Better yet, with some hard-core data mining, the constant could simply be the average number of rounds per game per map (tho one of the problems with supermax, at least in team games, is that the last several rounds tend to be mopping-up of cell blocks when the outcome is no longer in doubt).
Gypsys Kiss wrote:Would you discount tournament games, seeing as you dont always get a choice of what map you play(i.e.Map Blaster)? Being forced to play a map shouldn't make it more popular.
MrBenn wrote:A popular map will be played by lots of people, lots of times...
I'm too tired to think how to calculate it, but surely the map with the highest number of different people playing games on it each day = Most popular ?
chipv wrote:MrBenn wrote:A popular map will be played by lots of people, lots of times...
I'm too tired to think how to calculate it, but surely the map with the highest number of different people playing games on it each day = Most popular ?
Yup and dead easy for someone to knock up a tool for but the results won't be ... popular necessarily.
Crazyirishman wrote:Don't forget about how spoils will effect the length of games. flat rate/no spoils games can easily last 100+ round while escalating rarely go over 30.
mibi wrote:I used to compile such a list but based on total pages of active games. Cairnswick also had a thread about map movement stats but it sorted by total games played.
mibi wrote:I would love to see some rankings on which maps are popular and which have largely failed to attract the publics attention.
I used to compile such a list but based on total pages of active games. Cairnswick also had a thread about map movement stats but it sorted by total games played.
Given that the number of territories on a map has an effect on the length of play involved, and the number of active games going on, i think someone should come up with a formula that is based on the number of active games, but weighted to factor in larger maps.
i.e There are 259 active Super max games and 148 active Doodle earth games, however I would say that doodle is more popular, its just that its way smaller so games end quicker. so doodle would have to be handicaped in the scoreing.
anyways, i think that with so many maps out there, we really need to know what is popular and what people are attracted to.
porkenbeans wrote:I have often thought that the start a game, or game finder page, should have the monthly top 20 most popular games listed. This list would take only 1 thing into account, and that is ,(simply), # of new games started each month. NOT games in progress.
All of this talk about formulas, and how to somehow even out the disparagy, that may or my not exist, between small and large maps, is nonsensical. If Doodle, or some other map is more popular because of it's size, ...so be it. Why a map is more popular, can be debated till the cows come home. But no amount of debate can change the facts of which maps ARE the most popular.
mibi wrote:if only it were that easy. what about players who start 250 games of 1v1 CC mogul to far on over the course of a month? Or you have one player who only plays Crossword, but does it 100 times a month, counteracting 100 separate players who each play Midgard. Does that seem fair.
YES it does. Besides, it is NOT a question of "fair". It is only a question of fact. I think that you and others, are confusing the "most popular" with the "best" map. There are thousands of people that play here. Any single player, is NOT going to corrupt the numbers.mibi wrote:porkenbeans wrote:I have often thought that the start a game, or game finder page, should have the monthly top 20 most popular games listed. This list would take only 1 thing into account, and that is ,(simply), # of new games started each month. NOT games in progress.
All of this talk about formulas, and how to somehow even out the disparagy, that may or my not exist, between small and large maps, is nonsensical. If Doodle, or some other map is more popular because of it's size, ...so be it. Why a map is more popular, can be debated till the cows come home. But no amount of debate can change the facts of which maps ARE the most popular.
if only it were that easy. what about players who start 250 games of 1v1 CC mogul to far on over the course of a month? Or you have one player who only plays Crossword, but does it 100 times a month, counteracting 100 separate players who each play Midgard. Does that seem fair.
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