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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby Riazor on Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:39 am

MrBenn wrote:It's been a while since the change was announced - the next step is for the map to be withdrawn for new games. We'll give it a couple of weeks for existing games to disappear before implementing any changes.


Huh? What?! Noooo! We're playing a tournament on it, and its our home map.
Oh, and if any changes HAVE to be made, please consider doing something along these lines (instead of neutering plane bonuses):

Forza AZ wrote:I don't know if somebody already made this suggestion:
The Planes bonusses are unique for this map, so I don't want to remove them, but having the Planes as normal starting territories favours the starting team in most of the games, so I would suggest having the Planes start as neutrals (maybe just 1, so they are easy to grab, but at least you have round 1 to break your opponents bonusses and not having yourself in a lost position before you even took your first turn).
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:45 am

indeed...though something needs to be done....i dont like being burned on it
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:34 pm

This is the new Version 45 with the adjustments.

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This is the xml file for checking.
Coordinates have been changed only for K6.

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/Pearl_Har ... 040909.xml

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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:57 pm

The Pearl Harbor will be taken out of play for a little while now. Active games will be allowed to continue; the map will be relaunched and available again at some point on December 7th - the updated gameplay will be as per the update in the above post by cairnswk.

Apologies for the inconvenience caused - there will be some fall-out, but this way the damage to games-in-progress will be minimised.

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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby laughingcavalier on Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:00 pm

Really sad to see the planes bonus being effectively taken away. I've always liked the complexity of this map. Would much prefer to see a solution like Forza's or just making 2 planes a +2 bonus.
I thought the planes won at pearl harbour, so I thought that was why they were given such A good bonus.
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby timl2k9 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:50 pm

cairnswk wrote:
timl2k9 wrote:The oil tap is not obvious to me to be part of oil storage, this could use visual improvement.

not even with the small white storage tank symbol on it the same as with the legend.
first time this has ever been mentioned i beleive.

Yes. It is too small, and not easy to perceive as a hexagon. It's vague.
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby Gilligan on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:43 pm

MrBenn wrote:the map will be relaunched and available again at some point on December 7th


Was that a joke, or was it a truth? :P

(FYI Pearl Harbor was on December 7, 1941)
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby InsomniaRed on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:45 pm

Gilligan wrote:
MrBenn wrote:the map will be relaunched and available again at some point on December 7th


Was that a joke, or was it a truth? :P

(FYI Pearl Harbor was on December 7, 1941)

I think that's the point :P If not, good coincidence :ugeek:
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby Gilligan on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:58 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
MrBenn wrote:the map will be relaunched and available again at some point on December 7th


Was that a joke, or was it a truth? :P

(FYI Pearl Harbor was on December 7, 1941)

I think that's the point :P If not, good coincidence :ugeek:


Well, who's to say that the games will be done by the 7th?
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:29 pm

Gilligan wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
MrBenn wrote:the map will be relaunched and available again at some point on December 7th


Was that a joke, or was it a truth? :P

(FYI Pearl Harbor was on December 7, 1941)

I think that's the point :P If not, good coincidence :ugeek:


Well, who's to say that the games will be done by the 7th?

The choice of date was deliberate, so :ugeek: right back at you :P

A lot of the active games will have finished by then - but we'll be putting reminders/notifications into the game chat of active games so that people are aware.
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby Knight2254 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:48 am

Congrats, you just killed a great map.

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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby 4red on Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:30 pm

What are you guys doing. The map was one of my favorites. Maybe an acquired taste but I aways enjoyed playing it good or bad drop. There are plenty of maps I dont like and its simple, I DONT PLAY THEM. Please bring it back and don't fix what isn't broke.

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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:39 pm

60 active games still on....migth be a chance that no games will be affected by 7 Dec.
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby waseemalim on Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:16 am

cant wait for the new map to be on play.
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Re: WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Postby aspalm on Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:49 am

extremely disappointed. i reiterate my earlier statement that this is one of the best, if not THE best trips/quads maps available. i agree that the drops can be unfair in a singles game, but why does every board have to cater to singles games? for those who complain here's a suggestion: don't play Pearl Harbor in a singles game.

instead we have to go and ruin a perfectly good board. i agree with those who say the strategy just devolved into take and hold the AA's, because this immediately makes any plane bonuses impossible. ridiculous.
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