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[Rules] How to kick cheaters out of active games

Postby karelpietertje on Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:55 am

Concise description:
  • CC has been struggling with how to deal multis. they used to come to the site, play games and get busted, but they could stil finish the games. So CC figured, it was time to kick them out of all their games immediately.
  • The next problem was that of teamgames. teammates would get royally screwed if their teammate suddenly went neutral, so now, the teammate gets all armies, cards, and troops of the busted player.
  • This, however, still has a way too big impact on the game, and I think I have a better solution.
  • Instead of giving all territories, armies and cards to a teammate, have the teammate(s) be the one(s) playing for the busted player who got kicked out of the game.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Games like Game 6181883, where the game was lost until my partner was kicked sadly, when I could cash two sets and win with great ease, would not happen anymore.
  • The games would be more or less the same like what they would have been otherwise.

Specifics:
  • Let the next player in the team play all the turns.
  • For the appointed player it could have a separate "Playing As" page under My Games. (between "Active" and "Awaiting Players"?) Games on this page wouldn't count for the freemium game limit.
  • Instead of "<busted player name>" it could just say "<busted player name><team player>"
    • So it would say "Captain_Scarlet karelpietertje"

Points of discussion:
  • What happens if all players are banned together?
    • Should they simply lose the game?
  • What happens if teamplayer B is eliminated and player A is the only surviving teamplayer but gets kicked?
    • Does player B still get control of player A? This would mean he gets back in the game...
  • Should the way people deadbeat be considered? Lack seems to make the rules for banning and deadbeating the same.
    • Personally I think there's a difference because deadbeating happens in 3 rounds and can be calculated by both opponents and teammates, unlike a ban, which happens instantaneous.
  • What to do in freestyle teamgames where you want to play the two turns simultaneously?
    • There would be difference between joining the game from the Active games page and joining it from the Playing As page.
    • Also there would be a 'convert to teammate' button in the game for each ( :roll: ) banned teammate when you're playing.


Regards, KP
Last edited by karelpietertje on Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:03 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby Masli on Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:02 am

would be much better then the way it is at this moment ! This way nobody else gets punished !
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby elfish_lad on Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:03 am

I like it. Cheers.

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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby Ninja Champion on Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:22 am

yes if possible to add in
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby Tupence on Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:56 am

This sounds like a good idea to me, though I'm not sure how possible it is to implement. Any thoughts, anyone?
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby 72o on Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:06 am

I agree. They should still have separate turns. Great idea.

Implementation:

I think it should just change the kicked player to the next player on the team. So in the example game, karelpieterje would be listed as both players on team 2. No need to list in brackets the kicked player's name, as they are no longer part of the game.
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby jefjef on Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:56 am

Well I was in a dubs with Scarlet. All teams were down to one player and pretty even. She got kicked. My view is I should have gotten the troops instead of them going neutral seeing how it was a team game.
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby pascalleke on Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:47 pm

team games with a teammember kicked bcs of him/her being a multi is most times game over for that team ..so yeah its unfair !
i had it few times and it sucked ! maybee also an idea that the conquer club crew before they make such new changes ask the real players what they think about such ideas?? would save all of lots of work and :evil: :twisted:
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby BoganGod on Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:41 pm

Brilliant idea, would be a lot fairer. Good thinking =D> =D> =D>
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:52 pm

I fully support this idea! Great idea.
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:10 pm

What if they were busted with one another?

I do love the idea though, Misser Kazoo ;)
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby colton24 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:23 pm

Bruceswar wrote:I fully support this idea! Great idea.


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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:23 pm

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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby Fuzzylogic99 on Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:05 am

interesting idea but I don't see Lacks going for it.If I remember right similar ideas have been suggested and than quickly dismissed by CC.Def something like this would discourage cheating
but like I said I don't think CC would compliment this

Anyways this would discourage cheating
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Re: How to kick cheaters out of active games.

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:05 am

21 yes, 1 no. Even Lack cannot ignore this.
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