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Baltic Crusades

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:44 pm

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Map Name:Baltic Crusades
Mapmaker(s): Number of Territories:59
Special Features:Starting Neutrals, Auto-Deploy

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby natty dread on Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:11 pm

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So it will show on your post like this:

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:30 pm

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:02 pm

I think its interesting but you need to present what the gameplay is going to be. I see ships and shields but none of it is explained.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:43 am

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby natty dread on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:22 am

My first advice to you is: get a good graphics software and learn how to use it. Alternatively, try to get some graphical artist to work with you on this project.

Good graphics softwares include Paint shop, GIMP and Paint.Net. The last two are free.

The next thing is, you have a lot of unused space in the lower left corner. Are you going to put the legend there?
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:16 am

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:03 pm

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:14 pm

Well, this version is an improvement I think. It looks intriguing and you have my support, but there are some problems with this map.

You're legend ought to be boxed it, It's difficult to read. Same for the minmap legend in the other corner which is near impossible to read.

What graphics program are you using?

And for your bonus woes... There are bonus calculators.

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:37 pm

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:26 am

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:11 am

ok... You are using layers in photoshop right? If not... you're in trouble.

Take a look at the Hungary thread, linked here: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=108937&start=15

There's a lot of good discussion about how to work in layers and make your borders and colors seem smooth. Before you press on, I think you need a presentable image.

The first thing to do is fix those rough borders.

Create a new layer and label it borders.
Zoom in to about %600.
Select the brush tool, black color and size 3 px.
Systematically trace over the borders. It doesn't have to be exact but close will do. You will ultimately be deleting your original image, so don't worry about it.

Once you've done that create a new layer and label it rivers.
Do the exact same as the above with a bluish color of your choice.
Trace over the rivers.

One of the big problems with this map, imo, is that the tri-colors of the empires contrast with each other too much. Make the Ottoman Empire various shades of red, make the Austrian's various shades of white, make Hungary shades of Green. (or colors of your choice). That way the regions have some sort of graphical unity.

Next, you're going to want to apply these colors...

Create a new Layer and label it Ottoman Hungary.
Get your brush tool and change the color to something like burgundy.
Increase the size of the brush to about 20.
Color in the regions that comprise Ottoman Hungary.
Shrink the brush to maybe a 5 px and get in the little nooks and crannies of the border.
When you're done you should have a much clearer map of Ottoman Hungary.

Repeat the above step for all your regions, including the sea. When you're done, you'll have a better looking map.


But obviously label the territories whatever it is that you want to label them. Ottoman Hungary probably isn't appropriate here :P

While I suggested you fix the legend before, I'm going to say lets hold on that a second. When you make the borders you're going to learn the basics of the brush to help make those legends look nice. So yeah, fix the borders and the colors. Skip the dots for now, you'll add those on another layer later.

Make sure you're resolution is 72 and that you're working on the large map (I usually go 800 x 800 pixels for this size).

Regarding your legend, don't mess around with anything complex on that just yet. Box it in and here's how.

Go to the shape icon and hold it down so you get a choice menu, select box.
Create a new layer that is higher on the list than all your other layers, name it "Legend".
Draw a box around your legend information.
Select the Brush tool and make sure your size is 3 px and that your foreground color is black and background color is white.
Select the Pen tool (right next to the shape tool) and move up to the top menu. To your left there are 3 boxes with pen tool diagrams on them, select the middle one. Go down to the box you drew and right click on it.
Select "Stroke Path" and this will bring up a menu, make sure brush is selected and hit ok.
Viola, you have a box. Now right click the box again and select "Fill shape." Make sure in the next menu the background color is selected and hit ok.
Finally, right click again on the box and select delete path.

You're text should be gone now but that's ok. Go over to your layer menu and select the folder icon (at the bottom, third button on the left, looks like a little folder) Name your folder "Legend Text." and put all text that is in your legend in it (standard drag and drop).
Once you've done that move the folder above the "Legend" folder and you're text should be back.
Repeat the same for your legend graphics.

It seems like a lot to do, but it's not really. Maybe an hour of your time and you're map will be better for it. Once you've got smooth borders and your land colors don't fade next to the borders, you'll be in good shape. We'll hit your minimap next once you get your borders and colors right.
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:00 am

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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby theBastard on Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:17 am

maybe stupid question, but which one is "shape icon"? I can not find it...
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Re: Baltic Crusades

Postby Industrial Helix on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:10 am

theBastard wrote:maybe stupid question, but which one is "shape icon"? I can not find it...


Not stupid question... Here you go:

Another thing, make sure your border layer is on top of your colors layer cause it looks like some of the colors are overlapping the border.

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What exactly is your plan for giant ole Sweden? Cause If it's not there for gameplay I'd suggest ditching it and putting your legend there. Plus it looks way too big, but that might be me.

Lastly, make sure that there are no area where the borders and the colors do not meet. I can see a thin line between the border and the Burgundy red color up there. It's present elsewhere so give you map a look over for things like that. Otherwise, big improvement and nice work!
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