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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:03 pm

mibi wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
mibi wrote:I've been bested! The check is in the mail sir.

ROFL

hey porkiebeans, do you have a portfolio somewhere or is CC maps your only thing? Just curious as you portray your self as the Michelangelo of the internet.
If you payed more attention instead of always trying to crack funny, you would already know, that I have only been fiddling around with photoshop for a little over a year. I have never read the manual, only learned by trial and error. To tell the truth, I barely know how to operate a computer.
I am however, an artistic person, and could make something good out of mud and sticks, if asked. lol. ;)


My 2.5 year old is artistic too, you should see what he can do with a poopy diaper. It's cool though, he doesn't have a portfolio either.
Well, well, well, someone is a sore LOOSER. :lol:

I met your challenge, and with minimal effort, took your masterpiece that took you months to do, and turned it from a flat, drab, muddy with no contrast map, into a map that has depth, realistic color tones, contrast, and texture.

You could say that I beat you with one arm tied. :lol:

Now you start talking about "portfolios" and "shitty diapers" :?

Why can't you just accept defeat ?
Do I need to use both hands, and do a serious revamp on this map ?

Or, will the almighty mibi just admit, that he is my junior in the artistic department ?
I concede that I am your junior in the photoshop department. You may even be the most knowledgeable person at CC when it comes to photoshop operation. You seem to possess the knowledge, (if not the willingness) to teach others in this field. It is a shame that you choose instead, to make fun of others, and use this forum as a platform to disperse nasty wisecracks to everyone, that only wish to have a little fun here. This continuing conduct of yours has succeeded in driving away several of CC's best cartographers, and to you it is all just a joke. You have zero consideration of others, your antics are juvenile, and it amazes me that CC allows this to go on. :(
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:32 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Second, the challenge was to revamp, not to make my own map.


Just to point out - in Foundry parlance - you have done a "touch-up"...

With regards to the two images.

I like the Sea texture.
The Sea colour is too bright - this is northern france remember... although it was in the summer - the landings commenced at 6:30 in the morning.
The text in the sea hurts my eyes.
The red numbers have been almost made illegible (not quite but almost - I suspect that people with worse eyesight than mine might struggle)
The title is interesting - but perhaps a touch overdone.
I'm not 100% sure whether I prefer the dark beach or not... but in contrast to the bright sea I don't - but with the darker sea of Mibi's it could work.

As a last point - you've actually hurt your image by putting it on a black background (and applying a horrible signature) - remember that CC has white(/slight grey) backgrounds on the forum and map screen.

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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:38 pm

yeti_c wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Second, the challenge was to revamp, not to make my own map.


Just to point out - in Foundry parlance - you have done a "touch-up"...

With regards to the two images.

I like the Sea texture.
The Sea colour is too bright - this is northern france remember... although it was in the summer - the landings commenced at 6:30 in the morning.
The text in the sea hurts my eyes.
The red numbers have been almost made illegible (not quite but almost - I suspect that people with worse eyesight than mine might struggle)
The title is interesting - but perhaps a touch overdone.
I'm not 100% sure whether I prefer the dark beach or not... but in contrast to the bright sea I don't - but with the darker sea of Mibi's it could work.

As a last point - you've actually hurt your image by putting it on a black background (and applying a horrible signature) - remember that CC has white(/slight grey) backgrounds on the forum and map screen.

C.
Thanks yeti, I agree with some of your observations, but keep in mind that this was only a quick stab at showing the direction I would take it. The text and other issues would of coarse be addressed if I were to do a serious revamp.
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:51 pm

Coleman wrote:New XML: http://members.cox.net/gyrigo/CC/D-Day_ ... Beach!.xml

Changes

  • Changed 21st German Panzers 6 to start with 3 Neutral
  • Changed 916th German Grenadiers 8 to start with 3 Neutral
Reasons

  • To correct an undesirable advantage due to territory count given to the first turn player in 2 and 3 player games.
  • To prevent players from starting the game with a -1 or -2 bonus.

Necessity of change brought up by several members of the community, advised by the highly honorable Incandenza, and placed into a revised XML by Coleman with the indirect but valid approval of mibi.


How's about making the "bombard" territories - use the *new* bombard feature?!

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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby Coleman on Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:45 pm

Because that would be a complete gameplay redesign and would take the map into a direction I don't really agree with. I'd sooner see the map taken off the site.
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:51 pm

Coleman wrote:Because that would be a complete gameplay redesign and would take the map into a direction I don't really agree with. I'd sooner see the map taken off the site.
I have said before, and I will reiterate, I think this map plays fine. Making the parachutes start neutral, will fix the only real problem in GP. ;)
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby mibi on Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:40 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
mibi wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
mibi wrote:I've been bested! The check is in the mail sir.

ROFL

hey porkiebeans, do you have a portfolio somewhere or is CC maps your only thing? Just curious as you portray your self as the Michelangelo of the internet.
If you payed more attention instead of always trying to crack funny, you would already know, that I have only been fiddling around with photoshop for a little over a year. I have never read the manual, only learned by trial and error. To tell the truth, I barely know how to operate a computer.
I am however, an artistic person, and could make something good out of mud and sticks, if asked. lol. ;)


My 2.5 year old is artistic too, you should see what he can do with a poopy diaper. It's cool though, he doesn't have a portfolio either.
Well, well, well, someone is a sore LOOSER. :lol:

I met your challenge, and with minimal effort, took your masterpiece that took you months to do, and turned it from a flat, drab, muddy with no contrast map, into a map that has depth, realistic color tones, contrast, and texture.

You could say that I beat you with one arm tied. :lol:

Now you start talking about "portfolios" and "shitty diapers" :?

Why can't you just accept defeat ?
Do I need to use both hands, and do a serious revamp on this map ?

Or, will the almighty mibi just admit, that he is my junior in the artistic department ?
I concede that I am your junior in the photoshop department. You may even be the most knowledgeable person at CC when it comes to photoshop operation. You seem to possess the knowledge, (if not the willingness) to teach others in this field. It is a shame that you choose instead, to make fun of others, and use this forum as a platform to disperse nasty wisecracks to everyone, that only wish to have a little fun here. This continuing conduct of yours has succeeded in driving away several of CC's best cartographers, and to you it is all just a joke. You have zero consideration of others, your antics are juvenile, and it amazes me that CC allows this to go on. :(


uh... you didn't revamp the map. You basically spent 40 minutes farting all over it in photoshop, then threw on the birthday hat and called yourself a winner.

How can i be your junior in the artistic department? You don't even have anything artistic. Unless i missed something between all your failed map attempts.
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:11 pm

Come on boys; Don't make me send you to the naughty corner

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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:46 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Trust me when I tell you that, you will be lucky to get 2% of the vote if it comes down to it.

I just reread this and chuckled.

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Lucky to get 3% more like it…
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby Coleman on Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:15 am

I love how this derailed into a revamp that would need all the authors' approval to even start. I know originally mibi did all of the art but I would not okay a revamp at this point. Especially one that started in a manner similar to what I am seeing in the topic. The community has ALL the power when someone is trying to place a map onto the website; they have basically none once it gets there unless they can prove the map is broken.

I really like that shift of power. A lot. I have no intention of allowing a graphic revamp of this map ever unless, one, mibi really really forces the issue or two, someone can convince me all the other maps look better (thanks for being so ugly Ancient Greece). Flippantly offering someone $500 on the internet doesn't really count as forcing the issue for me.
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:53 am

yeti_c wrote:
Coleman wrote:New XML: http://members.cox.net/gyrigo/CC/D-Day_ ... Beach!.xml

Changes

  • Changed 21st German Panzers 6 to start with 3 Neutral
  • Changed 916th German Grenadiers 8 to start with 3 Neutral
Reasons

  • To correct an undesirable advantage due to territory count given to the first turn player in 2 and 3 player games.
  • To prevent players from starting the game with a -1 or -2 bonus.

Necessity of change brought up by several members of the community, advised by the highly honorable Incandenza, and placed into a revised XML by Coleman with the indirect but valid approval of mibi.


How's about making the "bombard" territories - use the *new* bombard feature?!

C.

I think there was some discussion about this earlier, and was under the impression that the one-way pseudo-bombards would remain as is...
Assuming that's the case, give me a nod and I'll let lack know the update is ready ;-)
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Re: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [Quenched]

Postby joriki on Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:20 am

It should say "plane can attack closer parachute" (since there are only two) :-)
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