[GL] Game Log 2.0

[jefjef]

The mystery is part of FOG. You don't want mystery than play sunny games.

Sure, but there's "mystery"...and then there's "silly and illogical". The current implementation is "silly and illogical" because it doesn't make any sense that an army would have no idea at all who attacked them or, even more likely, what direction they were attacked from.

The whole art of war consists of guessing at what is on the other side of the hill.
- Duke of Wellington

[Woodruff]

The mystery is part of FOG. You don't want mystery than play sunny games.

Sure, but there's "mystery"...and then there's "silly and illogical". The current implementation is "silly and illogical" because it doesn't make any sense that an army would have no idea at all who attacked them or, even more likely, what direction they were attacked from.

The whole art of war consists of guessing at what is on the other side of the hill.
- Duke of Wellington

An army (ANY army) that consistently uses this as their plan cannot possibly avoid utter defeat.

[jefjef]

The mystery is part of FOG. You don't want mystery than play sunny games.

Sure, but there's "mystery"...and then there's "silly and illogical". The current implementation is "silly and illogical" because it doesn't make any sense that an army would have no idea at all who attacked them or, even more likely, what direction they were attacked from.

The whole art of war consists of guessing at what is on the other side of the hill.
- Duke of Wellington

An army (ANY army) that consistently uses this as their plan cannot possibly avoid utter defeat.

No true. Custer guessed wrong once. Stonewall guessed right many times. FOG of war. If ya can't handle it play sunny.

[Crazyirishman]

If you know FOW then you'll be able to tell where your enemies have attacked you from a lot of the time if you pay close attention to the log.

[Woodruff]

If you know FOW then you'll be able to tell where your enemies have attacked you from a lot of the time if you pay close attention to the log.

Perhaps if you have a perfect memory or take snapshots of your games each turn you play. Otherwise...no, it isn't possible to tell from paying close attention to the log.

[Woodruff]

The mystery is part of FOG. You don't want mystery than play sunny games.

Sure, but there's "mystery"...and then there's "silly and illogical". The current implementation is "silly and illogical" because it doesn't make any sense that an army would have no idea at all who attacked them or, even more likely, what direction they were attacked from.

The whole art of war consists of guessing at what is on the other side of the hill.
- Duke of Wellington

An army (ANY army) that consistently uses this as their plan cannot possibly avoid utter defeat.

No true. Custer guessed wrong once. Stonewall guessed right many times. FOG of war. If ya can't handle it play sunny.

Said like a true pretend-strategist.

[jefjef]

Said like a true pretend-strategist.

But any way. No reduction to fog is necessary. It works well as it is intended.

Personally I'd like to see even more fog as far as the game log is concerned.

[Queen_Herpes]

I agree with fejfej. The more fog, the better.

[scotchleaf]

This was probably requested before, but why not have:

"Player X attacked Player Y in Siam from Indonesia with 30 armies. X lost 20, defeated Y's 10 armies..."

instead all we get is
"Choswolf assaulted Danzig from Herzogtum Preußen and conquered it from Scotchleaf" - at least when it is your own place that was attacked you should know what the # of attackers and Defenders was.

It kinda is a bummer when you have 30 armies somewhere, and Poof, they just disappear, and you dont know if they were defeated by a hoard or just by 10 lucky guys.

[Mr_Adams]

I like this. you can see these things in an rt or speed, but that element is missing in the standard game that makes up 90% of CC.

[TheForgivenOne]

Suggested before. I'll merge it in a bit.
Merged

[Super Nova]

Concise description:

• Have the game chat record when players lose or gain bonuses.

Specifics/Details:

• Say in classic someone took Australia, and the last place in Australia they took was Perth. The game log would read something like this:
  
  "Super Nova conquered Perth and advanced two troops.
  Super Nova gained continental bonus of two troops from Australia."
  
  When a player loses a bonus, the game chat would read something like this:
  Cookconquered Jakarta and advanced one troops.
  Super Nova lost two troop continental bonus from Australia.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• Although for a map such as classic this would not really be necessary, on more complicated maps it would save people the trouble of trying to figure out where on earth the bonus that is going to give the opposing player a ton of troops is. I know on my current game on Waterloo I find myself constantly trying to figure out what bonuses the opposing players do or don't have, so that I can deploy accordingly.

[MaTaMa]

I think it is a great idea, but when you play a game with fog of war then it would remove the fun.

[Queen_Herpes]

Is this original suggestion simply to add a game log? Or is it about increasing the definitions within the game log? I think more definition is better, but can the system track the number of armies? Should this one be merged with the suggs about the game log in fog? Seems like they talk about basically the same thing. I support both: more definition in the game log overall, additional information in the fog log (no more "assaulted ? from ?".)

[blakebowling]

Is this original suggestion simply to add a game log? Or is it about increasing the definitions within the game log? I think more definition is better, but can the system track the number of armies? Should this one be merged with the suggs about the game log in fog? Seems like they talk about basically the same thing. I support both: more definition in the game log overall, additional information in the fog log (no more "assaulted ? from ?".)

This suggestion is about a complete reworking of the game log system. Everything to do with logging should be re-coded from scratch.