AOS: Orient Express 1883 [quench'd]

[Hopscotcher]

So guys, can you give me some feasible solutions to your perceived problems?

About neutrals: they are sort of necessary, since I don't see any other way to guarantee fairness of drops with the rail bonuses. If the stations started regular, then what if you drop with both stations of italy for example... As for lowering the neutrals, this is something that could be considered, but again, there are fairness issues... it's already lucky for someone to drop next to the italy stations, since there's only 4 neutrals to take and it gives you a good bonus. And I don't particularly like the idea of "1 neutral territories" since they give a huge advantage in any multiplayer games with cards to whoever drops next to them.

How about lowering the Ottoman bonus? Increasing some of the others?

What if only SOME of the stations were droppable? obviously not the auto deploys, but maybe one in every country might make the map more interesting. Just a thought. looking forward to playing the update

[natty dread]

What if only SOME of the stations were droppable? obviously not the auto deploys, but maybe one in every country might make the map more interesting. Just a thought. looking forward to playing the update

Don't you think this would give a significant advantage to whoever drops the stations?

[army of nobunaga]

What if only SOME of the stations were droppable? obviously not the auto deploys, but maybe one in every country might make the map more interesting. Just a thought. looking forward to playing the update

Don't you think this would give a significant advantage to whoever drops the stations?

not if a significant number were drop-able making it even odds on getting one on the drops.

Might be an Idea to think about.

[Hopscotcher]

What if only SOME of the stations were droppable? obviously not the auto deploys, but maybe one in every country might make the map more interesting. Just a thought. looking forward to playing the update

Don't you think this would give a significant advantage to whoever drops the stations?

Nah. Not if you only made SOME of them droppable.

For Instance make all the non Orient Express Stations droppable:::
Amsterdam
Bordeaux
Berlin
Belgrade
Lombardy
Reggio Calabria

SO....... Worst case scenario, somebody gets the Italy Rail bonus. They still have to get BOTH terminus to win even if they do have 5 stations.

I honestly think this would liven this map up quite a bit, but then I'm a fool for NYC

Also, is there a significant difference between the regular stations and the orient stations? Or is that purely for historical reference?

[ender516]

The Orient stations are the only ones which count toward the victory condition.

[MarshalNey]

What if only SOME of the stations were droppable? obviously not the auto deploys, but maybe one in every country might make the map more interesting. Just a thought. looking forward to playing the update

Don't you think this would give a significant advantage to whoever drops the stations?

not if a significant number were drop-able making it even odds on getting one on the drops.

Might be an Idea to think about.

Although I did win one game by holding the objective, it was more due to fog of war and poor vigilance on the part of my opponents. The objective is a mite too difficult to pursue I think to be meaningful, a bit like Lunar War. It's not completely insane (AOR maps come to mind) but it's certainly going to be a very low-percentage win strategy.

Making the non-terminus stations droppable (or some of them) would liven up the map by giving some focus back to the trains. The Land Monopolies are dominant in the early going on this map, and often in the late going as well, with the Rail Monopolies a nice supplement.

Still, this is a fun and fine-looking map. Great work (Lunar War as well).

[MrBenn]

The updated xml has been forwarded to lackattack - I don;t think anything has changed yet, but let's wait and see...

[natty dread]

The updated xml has been forwarded to lackattack - I don;t think anything has changed yet, but let's wait and see...

Just the xml?

[ender516]

Perhaps, to ensure fairness, if you make some stations droppable, you should make them starting positions so they are passed out evenly.

[MrBenn]

The updated xml has been forwarded to lackattack - I don;t think anything has changed yet, but let's wait and see...

Just the xml?

Nope; image files too

[natty dread]

Perhaps, to ensure fairness, if you make some stations droppable, you should make them starting positions so they are passed out evenly.

No can do. I already have starting positions, namely, the territories which connect to OE stations.

The updated xml has been forwarded to lackattack - I don;t think anything has changed yet, but let's wait and see...

Just the xml?

Nope; image files too

neat

[kengyin]

i quite like this map, and i think the impassables are good but that may be because i like relatively more linear play, i get really confused when theres too many borders and everywhere can bombard and assault everywhere else and stuff

[MrBenn]

The upated files have gone live

[silent_bob]

It doesn't seem immediately obvious how the 'holding stations for one round' works. Is this one numbered game round or one round of turns of individual players?

[natty dread]

And here I thought there'd be some meaningful input...

The same way every other victory condition. If you hold it at the beginning of your turn you win.