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Postby Kabanellas on Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:04 am

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I’ve been wanting to make a Roman Empire map for quite a long time.

One map that could capture the problems and challenges faced by the Empire in the late 3rd century and all throughout the 4th:
Civil wars, political internal divisions, Barbarian invasions, the decline of the centralized power on Rome and eventually its fall by the hands of the Ostrogoths.

To do that I’ve based this project on the Roman Empire after Diocletian – which he divided in two large areas: The Western Roman Empire with capital on Rome and the Eastern Roman Empire with Constantinople as its capital.

Two emperors ruled together under the title of Augustus

The Empire was also divided into 4 quarters (Praefectura Praetorio) for administrative purposes:
-Italiae
-Galliarum
-Illyrici
-Orientis


Each Prefecture was governed by a Praetor also called Caesar, who's mission was to assist the Augustus in government affairs.
These Prefectures were subdivided in several Diocesis that were ruled by a Vicarius.

The Game board – Conquer Rome

There will be 8 starting positions – the Barbarian Tribes. All other regions will be randomly distributed between all players with the exception of regions with Legions on them, Barbarian Outposts and all Administrative seats in the Roman government.

The administration hierarchy is represented in the map and plays a vital part in the gameplay.
There will be NO bonus without owning one or more places there.

The game can be won by objectives, those would be:

-Holding one Imperial Capital (Rome or Constantinople)
-Holding both Imperial seats (both Augustus from West and East)
-Holding four Barbarian tribes


http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af10 ... ll_img.png

XML- http://www.freewebs.com/kabanellas/Conquer_Rome_V1.6a.xml
Large map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/ConquerRome_Beta4_img.png
Small map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/ConquerRome_Beta3c_small_img.png

Large map
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Small map
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Starting Neutrals - Tribes are starting position (non-attributed will start with 8 neutral troops)
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(a few) Previous versions
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http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/ConquerRome6_img.png
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/ConquerRome7a_img.png
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:38 am

Great first draft! =D> One thing I see (I know it's a graphics thing but it's the first thing that jumped at me) is the border of the eastern and western empires between Dacia and Illyricum is not obvious (I know that's where it is but some may not relize that). Maybe thicken that border in some way to denote that's where the dividing line is? I'll take a more in-depth look when I have more time. :)
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:20 am

I've wanted a Roman Empire map, but the extra additions to the gameplay probably would make this a map that I'd avoid as it stands, even though it is a pretty-sight and theme.


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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby danryan on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:22 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I've wanted a Roman Empire map, but the extra additions to the gameplay probably would make this a map that I'd avoid as it stands, even though it is a pretty-sight and theme.


--Andy


Isn't Imperium Romanum what you're describing then Andy? It's pretty straightforward, while this looks like a brain melter. Nice first draft Nuno - I look forward to studying this in detail, and following it through. Brilliant conception.
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby ben79 on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:29 am

danryan wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I've wanted a Roman Empire map, but the extra additions to the gameplay probably would make this a map that I'd avoid as it stands, even though it is a pretty-sight and theme.


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Isn't Imperium Romanum what you're describing then Andy? It's pretty straightforward, while this looks like a brain melter. Nice first draft Nuno - I look forward to studying this in detail, and following it through. Brilliant conception.


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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Kabanellas on Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:17 am

Well this is the Roman Empire map that I'd love to play (obviously) :)

anyway, once you get your mind in to it you'll find that the mechanics are not that hard to understand.
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Commander9 on Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:26 am

You can't continue cease to amaze me - I would have supported the project even just from the name and I come in and see this. Geez, I'm speechless. =D> As much as the idea goes, I think it's great!
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Rodion on Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:28 am

Should be a great map, Nuno!

One thing I'd like to see is territories with real city/province names instead of codes like AFI, AFII, AFIII, AFIV and AFV. Do you think that can be done? :)
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby danryan on Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:01 pm

One objection, there's a small village in Gaul that should start neutral that isn't shown, surrounded by the fortified Roman Camps of Totorum, Laudanum, Compendium, and Totorum. ;)
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:37 pm

Thank you for this mind dazzle, as I have yet to have one today. I did notice a typo: The vicarious YIELD...

Looks exciting, but the large blocks of text disdazzle me...
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:47 pm

I've been reading Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire lately and been thinking about a map that captures the politics and geographical situation. Essentially... this is it. Nice work!

The bonus system... it will be interesting to see how it plays out. It's certainly innovative though and I think i like it.

Lastly, your history needs some tidying up. Diocletian was at the end of the 3rd century, not the 4th, and while he did split the Empire, Constantine re-unified it and moved the capital to Constantinople. Diocletian's eastern capital was at Nicomedia. Julian followed Constantine in a unified Empire, but his successor Jovian presided over the final and permanent split between east and west. Your map describes the situation post-Jovian more than it does in Diocletian's time.

And the Eastern Roman Empire was never known to them as the "Byzantine Empire", they referred to themselves as Romans until the Turks sacked Constantinople.

Anyway, I want Tacktix to look at it before we pass it on, but you might as well submit a design brief now, if you're ready.
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby natty dread on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:42 pm

This is art. =D>
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby theBastard on Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:10 pm

you rocks! I have some notices, but mainly from historical view. they are baseless for graphics or gameplay. still this is great draft.

after Constantine´s death at 337 AD was Romand Empire divided to three parts. than it was for short time united, but at 395 AD was divided to two parts by Theodosius. the capital of East was Constantinople, the capital of West Milano, later moved to Ravenna.
just historical view.

will not have Sassanids advantage against others Barbars?

the emblem for Easter Empire is wrong. it is from medieval times. I knos it is hard to find any other.

this is emblem of city Constantinople from about 300 AD
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or just use "labarum" as for West side. west labarum could be red, east purple...
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby Imyahuckleberry on Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:42 pm

Looks beautiful as always Nuno. Great job!
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Re: The Fall of the Roman Empire (Conquer Rome)

Postby tdans on Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:57 pm

WOW, that looks amazing man...... Its a fabulous Idea :) good Luck Kab :)
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