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by **danryan** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:44 am

The rule changes and challenge sizes may have had an impact as well.

by **Leehar** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:14 am

I'm just interested in why Quarters has more games on face value than Semi's or the Final. Obviously a different scenario if there are ties, but it still feels a bit weird to see it as is.

Also, any specific reason to have World 2.1 as the tiebreaks? There's no support for random, or maybe just looking at a poll of the most popular map?

by **lord voldemort** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:14 am

i think it was decided in cla forums...i assume...

by **jpcloet** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:21 am

Stats were provided on all the CLA League Map Choices, and it (World 2.1) was decided by the organizer. There was no vote but based on the number of specialty maps used as "home maps", this was a good choice IMO.

by **jpcloet** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:26 am

I would like clarification of:

"When games are sent, they must already be created, however, they do not have to be fully joined by home team yet. TheSpaceCowboy and myself should be copied in the private message sending each clans home games. Once home games are sent, each clan has 5 full days to fill the games. "

That means clans may walk the line on fog games. My requirement has always been that the home team must fully join before my away team joins, and assumes the full risk of choosing fog.

by **jpcloet** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:02 am

Can you post the updated version of the Power Rankings?

Before the tournament starts, seedings will be given out. The seedings will be determined by the latest power ranking votes found here viewtopic.php?f=438&t=118748

Or are you going to use July of last year?

by **chemefreak** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:13 am

++The Legion++ is in.

1st Contact - chemefreak
2nd Contact - ralphcptc

Woo Goo!!

by **Chuuuuck** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:21 am

Yes, jp, I will clarify about home teams being joined first. I also will try to have the power rankings up ASAP. Just haven't had time to combine them as of late.

by **denominator** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:21 pm

Death By Comity is in.

Primary contact: denominator
Secondary contact: Nikita42

by **Lubawski** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:41 pm

Leehar wrote:I'm just interested in why Quarters has more games on face value than Semi's or the Final. Obviously a different scenario if there are ties, but it still feels a bit weird to see it as is.

There is a more in depth tie breaker in the last two rounds I believe. The bigger tie breaker was discussed, but one of the biggest problems with CC1 was that it was really dragging on. CLA reps decided it was better to make the extra game early on to prevent ties rather than have it drawn out, but once we get to 4 clans left, that kind of drama is REALLY exciting.

Leehar wrote:Also, any specific reason to have World 2.1 as the tiebreaks? There's no support for random, or maybe just looking at a poll of the most popular map?

What JP said, except that several CLA reps chimed in and agreed that this was a good decision (Too many clans are afraid that random could kill the fun of things if that odd numbered game ended up being something terrible--which is a valid point. Could you imagine trips Luxembourg being the deciding game in a challenge?). The 2.1 decision wasn't as unilateral as JP made it seem.

by **Lubawski** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:43 pm

Chuuuuck wrote:Yes, jp, I will clarify about home teams being joined first. I also will try to have the power rankings up ASAP. Just haven't had time to combine them as of late.

Those power rankings are really old Chuck. I submitted mine over 4 months ago. A lot has happened since then. Do you think it is possible to have all clan leaders who are participating in the Cup submit power rankings (only for those involved) when sign-ups close. If we could get a one or two day turn around I think it would be possible.

by **Dako** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:52 pm

TOFU is in.

Primary - Dako
Secondary - Chariot of FIre

by **Chuuuuck** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:36 pm

I asked for the votes half way through December and still received some around the new year. They aren't that old. You really want to do them again?

by **Lubawski** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:47 pm

Chuuuuck wrote:I asked for the votes half way through December and still received some around the new year. They aren't that old. You really want to do them again?

For selfish reasons, yes. I think we are higher standing now than we were before the clan season ended. Same with both Myth and Devil's Brigade. Other clans, who I know I ranked pretty high turned out to be pretty poor in the league (and recent challenges since then). I just think things should be current. Some of the clans in here I don't even think were created at the time, but have shown up in challenges since and are looking either pretty good (better than a new clan--like TFFS) or pretty poor. I just think we should have fairly accurate (and recent) rankings to go by. You asked for them before December I think. I swear I answered those in November. If not, time is going really slow.

by **Bruceswar** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:31 pm

Personally Seeding means jack shit. As long as you are not in the play in group then all is OK. If you are on the edge of the play in / in then you will also be OK as some clans are likely not to be playing again. Past that seeds mean nothing.. If you are good enough you will be able to take on anybody and do well. Remember you guys were the 4th seed(bumped to 3rd due to TSM sitting out) I am sure everybody will be seeded close to where they need to be. If not just win and things will take care of themselves.