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Postby Bad Speler on Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:50 am

I did read the paragraph, and although you brougt some interesting points, I think i will have to stick with spanish and portuguese names, as having a map that uses 6 or so languages on it would be confusing for anyone that knows the region. Anyone else wouldnt care. And, if i used only Spanish and portuguese names, people who know the region wouldnt be so confused and just like the previous option, people who didnt wouldnt care.
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Postby Bad Speler on Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:36 pm

With Coordinates now:

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Postby Syzygy on Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:54 am

It's looking really good, maybe change the borders by the rivers (possibly a darker blue) and add in trivial decor (like a ship or two) in the sea.
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Postby txorittikia on Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:40 pm

well , I totally agree with steve monkey , he is completely right ! And I really don`t understand what you say bad speler , people who doesn`t know won`t care , right , but you say that people who know the region might get confused...I think , if they get confused they DO NOT know the region ! Everybody who has been there knows that it is spelled LLEIDA or OURENSE or BIZKAIA . And then , it is just a territory you have to conquer whatever name or spelling it has ! There are things like middle earth....I have never been there and I am quite sure I will never get there , but wether it`s spelled middil erth or whatever , when I am in that game I know I have to conquer it and there will be definitely no confusion about that !
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Postby txorittikia on Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:45 pm

Oh , and such comments as as it came from boberz...it just shows how narrowminded most (not all ! ) english-speaking people are....but actually I prefer an all english map to a mixed portuguese- spanish one ignoring the reality !
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Postby boberz on Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:05 pm

no that was meant to be a happy medium, i want the names to be in Spanish and Portugese but thought that if nobody was going to agree i tried to calm the situation (i had just come out of one of qwerts threads so was already fairly enraged)
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Postby txorittikia on Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:26 pm

ok, i`m sorry
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Postby zetuga on Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:42 pm

Thank you for this beatifull map. I really hope to play it soon.

As portuguese (and half spanish), i may say a few words. First, its gorgeous, second, its almost 100% accurate.

Soon, I will try help you improve a little your map, you see, i dont speak english very much, so i need assistence in translation.

see you soon.
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hello

Postby 100023690 on Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:04 am

i think the map it is ok, but if you need information:

catalan,galician and basque are official languages, not dialet.
catalan is spoken in catalunya ( 7000.000 millon people), valencia( 5000.000 mll people) balearic islands ( 1500.000 mll people) and any part of aragon. and this language it not residual, it is very much used.
lerida=lleida
gerona=girona
barcelona=barcelona
tarragona=tarragona

basque language is spoken less,only in basque country and part of navarra.
basque country=euskadi
vizcaya=bizkaia
alava=araba

galician languages is spoken only in galicia but it si like catalan, it is very used by many people of the 3000.000 millions of people in galicia.
orense=ourense
la coruña= a coruña

it is only information, i think the map it is ok.
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Re: hello

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:50 am

100023690 wrote:i think the map it is ok, but if you need information:

catalan,galician and basque are official languages, not dialet.
catalan is spoken in catalunya ( 7000.000 millon people), valencia( 5000.000 mll people) balearic islands ( 1500.000 mll people) and any part of aragon. and this language it not residual, it is very much used.
lerida=lleida
gerona=girona
barcelona=barcelona
tarragona=tarragona

basque language is spoken less,only in basque country and part of navarra.
basque country=euskadi
vizcaya=bizkaia
alava=araba

galician languages is spoken only in galicia but it si like catalan, it is very used by many people of the 3000.000 millions of people in galicia.
orense=ourense
la coruña= a coruña

it is only information, i think the map it is ok.


They are official only in the regions were they are spoken. The only language that is official for the whole of Spain in Spanish (i.e. Castillian). All the nation knows how to speak Spanish although in some regions like Catalonia Spanish is official alongside Catalan.
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hi

Postby 100023690 on Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:15 am

jeje if you do not finish the map soon, perhaps it is necessary to do one new map by the division of Spain.
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Postby antjo on Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:32 am

the capitals are like almost hidden
make them white and they will come out
or give them a borderline, contour
its better to use pale colors for the colored numbers of the armies
look at bubblemachine or crazy-one-way
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14883
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14992
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Re: hi

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:49 am

100023690 wrote:jeje if you do not finish the map soon, perhaps it is necessary to do one new map by the division of Spain.


I understand that you are Catalan maybe and want Spain to break in little pieces but that will never happen. Don't worry the geography of Spain won't change by the time BadSpeler finishes this map. :)

The only problem that Spain has got is Zapatero...the worst European politician I have seen in a while now...and he was lucky to get elected because of 11 March or else Aznar's party would have won.

Btw I have been to Barcelona...wonderful city...will definitely visit again.
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Postby Bad Speler on Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:29 am

So far, im sticking with Spanish and Portuguese, as those are national official languages, whereas Catalan and other languages are simply regional.
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Postby KomradeKloininov on Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:47 pm

It looks like an amazing map to me. Too many habe too few areas and are too simple coming out recently. This one seems great.
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Postby spinwizard on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:46 am

ok m8 ur map is getting torn apart by the name debates, put ur foot down and say "i am doing it in english" or "i am doing it in spanish" but stop the debates. Or u could put up a poll and see what ppl think
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Postby Bad Speler on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:05 pm

Ive already said im doing it in spanish and portuguese, because those are NATIONAL languages. Im starting to learn illustrator now, once i learn how to use it ill put up a new update.
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Postby spinwizard on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:06 pm

Bad Speler wrote:Ive already said im doing it in spanish and portuguese, because those are NATIONAL languages. Im starting to learn illustrator now, once i learn how to use it ill put up a new update.


what have u been useing b4?
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Postby Bad Speler on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:16 pm

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Postby spinwizard on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:18 pm

i think u r the only preson 2 get a map quenched with anything other than photoshop.
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Postby Wisse on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:40 pm

spinwizard wrote:i think u r the only preson 2 get a map quenched with anything other than photoshop.

marvadin did it with paint (brazil map)
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Postby spinwizard on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:42 pm

Wisse wrote:
spinwizard wrote:i think u r the only preson 2 get a map quenched with anything other than photoshop.

marvadin did it with paint (brazil map)


he got textures with paint!
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Postby Kaleidoscopio on Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:18 am

I think the map looks great.
I'm waiting for it to go live now.
No more name changes please. :D
I'm Portuguese but I worked in Spain for a couple of months (in Girona), doing a banking application for "Caja de Girona". As such I'm more than aware of all the language questions.
We could go on debating forever if Bad Speller should use Portuguese and Spanish only or all the other dialects.
Since that discussion is a never ending one, I would either put a Poll or just go with the Map Creator decision.
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A few sugestions

Postby zetuga on Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:27 pm

Please change "Tras-os-montes" to "Ribatejo" wich means something like "upper Tagus River", it is more adequate because it includes all the north of the country. In fact it's the biggest river of the Peninsula and a reference wich splits the North and the South of Portugal. And, you see, Tras-os-montes is "only" the northeastern region, big in size, but the second least populated.

Please consider changing "Viseu" to "Coimbra" although they are close to each other, the former is far bigger and important, in fact its known as the third biggest city of Portugal.

Hope you understand my english, it may sound rude, because i barely speak it.

These are the recommendations from someone who doesn't live in none of the towns or regions mentioned. I'm just trying to help.

And congratulations for this map. It's lovely.

Áurea and José Sousa
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Postby Bad Speler on Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:09 pm

of course i understand your enclish, it seems better than mine :lol:
I will make the changes you mentioned, I do not know much of the region, thank you.
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