if the josko bust goes down

[keyborn]

In that case:

KoRT: CCup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (josko)
THOTA:cup win is nullified due to sitting abuse. (blitzaholic)
TOFU: Ccup win is nullified due to sitting abuse (CoF)

So by right the cup should default to the next highest clan which happens to be nemesis. If you all gonna try and take the cup on technicalities, then don't even both. KoRT won the Cup. Either move on or give it to nemesis.

These three examples are not the same type of circumstance. Your comparisons are more like should a team that won the World Series forfeit the Series win because one of their players was arrested and convicted of a crime that had nothing to do with the Series?

If the crime in question skewed the results (or had the potential to skew the results) of the Series, like throwing a game, ie. Shoeless Joe Jackson, then should the team forfeit the Series?

The abuse in question here occurred during the TOFU v KoRT and THOTA v KoRT clan wars. Therefore, since that abuse could have skewed the results of the clan wars, should the CC1 cup be forfeited?

Lets stick to comparing apples to apples.

[Ace Rimmer]

CoF in the TOFU/KORT war was playing in 21 games instead of 20. If we hand any one of his wins to KORT, we still beat them in number of games won.

Josko taking both turns in his doubles games with moon plus sitting for many other players is different.

Blitz breaking the rules outside of the clan games doesn't matter, imho

[TheSaxlad]

I know there are flaws in my logic.

I was just pointing out that if there was any sign that THOTA could even have a chance of winning the cup then they would.

[greenoaks]

Blitz's infringement on non-clan games does not invalidate the efforts of hs clan

[Incandenza]

I was just pointing out that if there was any sign that THOTA could even have a chance of winning the cup then they would.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Care to elaborate? I'd be particularly interested in knowing how you came to be so mentally attuned to the thought processes of 25 or so strangers on the internet.

[owenshooter]

Comparing Apples to Melons

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason

[comic boy]

Comparing Apples to Melons

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason

Excellent , the morons arguing against us gotta mean we have a strong case , must buy some silver polish for the cup

[pascalleke]

Comparing Apples to Melons

yes, because one is accused and the other was sent on a month long vacation for his violation...-the black sense of reason

Excellent , the morons arguing against us gotta mean we have a strong case , must buy some silver polish for the cup

yeah , looks like they touched something here .... -the white cup polisher

[zips5000]

I don't know about you guys, but I could stare at pascal's avatar all day long.....

What is she saying?

[greenoaks]

assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...

LOL and why THOTA when Blitz is a sitter abuser?

Comparing Apples to Melons

my wife has apples, i always compare them to melons

[dowian2]

I'm envisioning a NCAA-like treatment of the CCup. The win would be vacated, but not awarded to anyone else

[greenoaks]

I'm envisioning a NCAA-like treatment of the CCup. The win would be vacated, but not awarded to anyone else

we had that recently in the NRL. the winning team was found to be cheating the salary cap and was stripped of all titles earnt. runners up were not awarded the titles stripped. there wasn't much complaint, not even from the runners up.

[pascalleke]

assuming they are subject to the same player-limitation violations that TOFU suffered, the cup would default to THOTA, no? where's chuuuck when you need him...

LOL and why THOTA when Blitz is a sitter abuser?

Comparing Apples to Melons

my wife has apples, i always compare them to melons

Can u show us some proof of that ?

[The Voice]

I'm envisioning a NCAA-like treatment of the CCup. The win would be vacated, but not awarded to anyone else

Then we could hit TOFU with recruiting violations for stealing Chuuuuck away from us with the promise of free meat substitutes for life. I've read all 1,200 pages of the NCAA's rules. No tofu is NCAA byline 1.324.23.4.234.2. Its a banned substance.

As to the josko case, I'm not sure we should speculate. To do so, we must first assume josko and/or other members of KoRT are in fact guilty, which remains yet to be seen.

[Chuuuuck]

IF josko is found guilty. Nothing will be changed with the first CCup. Everyone will be free to form their own opinions about who the winner should be, but there is no answer I can come up with that'll make everyone happy.

I am saddened this has all happened around the tournament and hopefully new rules are set in place that keeps it from going on in the future. But I will not adjust any of the results.