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drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
Robinette wrote:Or is it that this is an embarrassingly close victory? my prior impression was that this would have been a rout... That Thota would have dominated and destroyed them...
so what gives? are the Bandits really THAT GOOD? or is Thota that weak without Blitz?
Or were my prior impressions all wrong? and for how long?
In the most basic sense, i had assumed Thota was THE dominate (and maybe even undefeated) clan,
while the Bandits were nothing more than a social clan...
Evidently, my prior assumptions were far from accurate.
So the Bandits are good enough to come that close to beating the best clan,
or is there a stronger clan than Thota?
Great-Ollie wrote:Well i know that the war thread between Thota and BPB was crazy! As for the game play, i was i little disappointed in THOTA for sure. I think they may be slipping a little with all the drama that they have encountered this last year. It would be hard to stay on top, and my hat is off to all THOTA players. In my opinion i think the clans are getting stronger in general, so don't be surprised to see a new number 1 soon. I too was dismissed from a top level clan early in my CC life. I am glad I was now that i have the best group of guys in my clan. We have a lot of fun, enjoy kicking ass, and compete at the highest level. Our goal is one day to be considered by THOTA for a challenge. So the recent close battles and losses by THOTA make this a more realistic option one day i hope. BPB have some great guys but i do not think they belong in the same context as THOTA, just my opinion.
Robinette wrote:Thota is sure to win. Wouldn't they be happy to post "in your face" in that thread?
Robinette wrote:Or is it that this is an embarrassingly close victory? my prior impression was that this would have been a rout... That Thota would have dominated and destroyed them...
Robinette wrote:so what gives? are the Bandits really THAT GOOD? or is Thota that weak without Blitz?
while the Bandits were nothing more than a social clan...
drunkmonkey wrote:I honestly wonder why anyone becomes a mod on this site. You're the whiniest bunch of players imaginable.
Ron Burgundy wrote:Why don't you go back to your home on Whore Island?
General Mojo wrote:A lot of it also has to do with what other things some of the BpP members have on their plates while a particular challenge is ongoing. Plus, lets face it...we simply don't care as much as certain other folks around here about random imaginary internet wars.
laughingcavalier wrote:A 24-17 scoreline may be flattering to the bandits. Oftentimes a number 1 seed will not be 100% focused on a game against a 16 seed.
Robinette wrote:Kaskavel wrote:Seriously. Who is the female conqueror of CC?
Depends on what metric you use...
The coolest is squishyg
Mr Changsha wrote:laughingcavalier wrote:A 24-17 scoreline may be flattering to the bandits. Oftentimes a number 1 seed will not be 100% focused on a game against a 16 seed.
Also, that 16th seed is basically a slap for our refusal to play one-off clan challenges. The idea that we are actually the 16th strongest clan (in terms of actual ability) is ludicrous. The BpB made the finals of CLA 2...that wasn't a fluke.
I would happily admit that in terms of ability we are outside the top 5. No issue with that. Your clan, for instance, is stronger. But we are comfortably a top 10 clan with regards to talent. I suppose one can make the claim that all talent and no results = all mouth and no trousers. But I point you to CLA 2. We are quite capable of doing well in CLA 4 as well.
Leehar wrote:Mr Changsha wrote:laughingcavalier wrote:A 24-17 scoreline may be flattering to the bandits. Oftentimes a number 1 seed will not be 100% focused on a game against a 16 seed.
Also, that 16th seed is basically a slap for our refusal to play one-off clan challenges. The idea that we are actually the 16th strongest clan (in terms of actual ability) is ludicrous. The BpB made the finals of CLA 2...that wasn't a fluke.
I would happily admit that in terms of ability we are outside the top 5. No issue with that. Your clan, for instance, is stronger. But we are comfortably a top 10 clan with regards to talent. I suppose one can make the claim that all talent and no results = all mouth and no trousers. But I point you to CLA 2. We are quite capable of doing well in CLA 4 as well.
Firstly, there really isn't anything called CLA 2, so It'd be appreciated if you'd actually get your terminology correct... (The CLA is a usergroup, you're referring to the Clan League)
And the clan situation changes so quickly that you really can't be harking back to something that happened almost 2 years ago, if that's really all you can keep claiming then you do have a ways to go..
Sure you may have some people that you can keep on keep pinning your hopes on, and FC, GM and md/sr are undeniably good players, but most of the top 10/15 clans have just as many players who are as good or better. The clan scene has evolved to an extent that that really isn't enough. You mentioned the depth factor, and it's interesting to see the specialization you have that you can throw all dubs, trips and quads to set teams and leaders, but thats also a failing in that you give others such little play-time. You probably have around 30 members yet only 16 played and then there's still a disparity between your set teams and those on the fringes upwards of 6/7 games?
As I said, clans nowadays are a lot more than those features you believe you're strong in, so a comfortable top 10 for you is by no means assured, specially considering the fierce jockeying for places we already have thereabouts...
the bandits are something of a challenging for the top 10 (maybe a cup run) kind of team.
Leehar wrote:Sorry,let me rephrase that
Basically you have more members than thota, but yet you try and claim you suffer from depth issues when playing them, you say you're not into playing competitively yet your specialized teams tend to be made on a competitive basis. You're a social clan but you don't seem to play socially. You believe history has proven you to be successful with CL2, yet more recent history in CL3 has proven that false.
Idk, those are just some things that I believe are pretty incongruous, that alongside the being comfortably in a top 10 as a purely social clan in an already fiercely competitive ladder just wrings too hollow for me
owenshooter wrote:Leehar wrote:Sorry,let me rephrase that
Basically you have more members than thota, but yet you try and claim you suffer from depth issues when playing them, you say you're not into playing competitively yet your specialized teams tend to be made on a competitive basis. You're a social clan but you don't seem to play socially. You believe history has proven you to be successful with CL2, yet more recent history in CL3 has proven that false.
Idk, those are just some things that I believe are pretty incongruous, that alongside the being comfortably in a top 10 as a purely social clan in an already fiercely competitive ladder just wrings too hollow for me
we have 21 active members of the 31 that are listed as being in our clan. of those 21, 19 were in games at the start of the challenge being spoken about. of those 19, 16 took place in the challenge. so, you actually have no idea what you are talking about. and i assume you made your false assumptions based on our membership scrolls, etc... so no hard feelings on your glaring errors/assumptions about bandit membership. fact remains, no other clan on CC comes close to what it is that we do. the head scratching part of that is, none of you can even figure it out...-el Jesus negro
Mr Changsha wrote:General Mojo wrote:A lot of it also has to do with what other things some of the BpP members have on their plates while a particular challenge is ongoing. Plus, lets face it...we simply don't care as much as certain other folks around here about random imaginary internet wars.
It is certainly true that most of us are married, have kids, jobs, busy lives..etc etc.laughingcavalier wrote:A 24-17 scoreline may be flattering to the bandits. Oftentimes a number 1 seed will not be 100% focused on a game against a 16 seed.
I would just point out that few match-ups will excite the CC community more than the bandits vs. thota. It is fine to claim we aren't all that strong, organised etc etc, but you might want to consider that we manage to maintain a strong presence and reputation without having to bother ourselves with actually playing all that many games. There is a reason for that, you know? It is because the clan is full of some very bright people indeed.
Also, that 16th seed is basically a slap for our refusal to play one-off clan challenges. The idea that we are actually the 16th strongest clan (in terms of actual ability) is ludicrous. The BpB made the finals of CLA 2...that wasn't a fluke.
I would happily admit that in terms of ability we are outside the top 5. No issue with that. Your clan, for instance, is stronger. But we are comfortably a top 10 clan with regards to talent. I suppose one can make the claim that all talent and no results = all mouth and no trousers. But I point you to CLA 2. We are quite capable of doing well in CLA 4 as well.
One of the issues is depth. I can't understand why challenges need to be over so many games. 61? 81? We have lives...as a clan we can't handle that many games. But it is bloody ridiculous to base a clan's strength on how many games they can fill. One needs to look at the win percentages of the individual players.
I'll give you an example:
Imaginary Clan A has 40 members (active) average ability around lieutenant.
Imaginary Clan B has 15 members (active) average ability around decent-major.
Clan A challenges Clan B to a 101 game challenge.
I'd put my money on Clan A. But wouldn't mean they are the stronger clan. Over a 41 game challenge Clan B would whip them.
Leehar wrote:Sorry,let me rephrase that
Basically you have more members than thota, but yet you try and claim you suffer from depth issues when playing them, you say you're not into playing competitively yet your specialized teams tend to be made on a competitive basis. You're a social clan but you don't seem to play socially. You believe history has proven you to be successful with CL2, yet more recent history in CL3 has proven that false.
Idk, those are just some things that I believe are pretty incongruous, that alongside the being comfortably in a top 10 as a purely social clan in an already fiercely competitive ladder just wrings too hollow for me
You believe history has proven you to be successful with CL2, yet more recent history in CL3 has proven that false.
Basically you have more members than thota, but yet you try and claim you suffer from depth issues when playing them, you say you're not into playing competitively yet your specialized teams tend to be made on a competitive basis. You're a social clan but you don't seem to play socially.
fact remains, no other clan on CC comes close to what it is that we do. the head scratching part of that is, none of you can even figure it out...-el Jesus negro
..... something of a challenging for the top 10 (maybe a cup run) kind of team.
.... something of a challenging for the top 10 (maybe a cup run) kind of team.
Idk, those are just some things that I believe are pretty incongruous
Robinette wrote:Kaskavel wrote:Seriously. Who is the female conqueror of CC?
Depends on what metric you use...
The coolest is squishyg
Leehar wrote:Firstly, there really isn't anything called CLA 2, so It'd be appreciated if you'd actually get your terminology correct...
squishyg wrote:A typical bandit day:
.........
8 pm Log in to CC. Take turns. Roll eyes at lesser beings.
8:10 pm Amazing sex with our attractive RL partners, whiskey.
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