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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:30 pm

natty_dread wrote:Definitely add mountains. I just haven't decided on the exact locations (there are so damn many mountains to choose from!)

Anyway, Croatia at least needs some border reduction, maybe Bosnia too...

Well, how about approaching it from the opposite direction: the rivers? You're right, mountains are everywhere in Yugoslavia, and they don't form a really meaningful pattern (speaking from a warlord's perspective, of course. I'm sure it's a very meaningful pattern to a geologist.)

If you just accept that mountains are everywhere, but the river valleys make them passable, then zones become connected if and only if they share a common river.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:36 pm

Next iteration -
I decided to scrap the previous capital idea, in favour of a more conventional approach - the capitals now give a bonus, and there is now a victory condition for holding Belgrade + 4 other capitals which gives Belgrade a slight edge.

Also I put in some impassables. They're ugly, I know, I'll make them nicer later.

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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:35 am

Since you seem to be able to whip these things off in no time, how about trying my idea, just as a quick experiment? Just make everything impassable except where the river valleys (or on the coast, the sea) makes a passageway. For instance, the Una region only connects to Croatia because the Una valley creates a natural opening through the mountains. Trebinje only connects to Serbia because the Drina connects them. And so on.

I know it's unusual, and I wouldn't suggest it if I thought it would make your life difficult, but like I said you seem to be able to knock off experiments quickly and easily. And it might lead to something really unique, even while being geographically accurate.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:18 am

I agree with Dukasaur, and I'm not entirely confident in the victory condition you've implemented...

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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby theBastard on Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:41 am

just one question: why not to do Yugoslavia map from Civil War? it could be interesting with all ethnic problems and areas with mixed population...
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:28 am

Dukasaur wrote:make everything impassable except where the river valleys (or on the coast, the sea) makes a passageway.


Umm, no. Too many impassables. Sorry but that's just a bad idea.

I've always been of the opinion that gameplay needs to come first, geographical accuracy second. After all we're not using these maps to learn geography.

theBastard wrote:just one question: why not to do Yugoslavia map from Civil War?


Because I'm making this map. Why don't you do it?
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby The Bison King on Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:58 am

Looks good. Looks very similar to:

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but this is a map a lot of people have wanted for a long time. I think the victor condition seems a little tacked on. I like the cities bonus, but I don't know if the Belgrade +4 thing is really necessary.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:46 am

Not sure about the winning condition as if you get a drop mostly in the south, you have 3 of your 4 right there, with two others just north of Belgrade.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:36 pm

Yeah the victory condition will probably go.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Industrial Helix on Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:24 pm

Interesting map, somewhat classic gameplay style.

The graphics texture is missing a certain something... I'm not sure what. I like the cement block feeling, very Cold War imo. So that's good. But the colors are too purely put on there. Could you weather them some?

The mountains are too 3d modeled for the map.... I wonder if you could work something in there using the cement background. Maybe chipped cement or ridges of cement.

Anyway, this is all advanced stuff for this map... if you're happy to continue this map, I'm happy to move it on.
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:48 pm

Yeah... should I submit a design brief?
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Industrial Helix on Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:51 pm

natty_dread wrote:Yeah... should I submit a design brief?


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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:09 am

Industrial Helix wrote:Please do!


It is done.

Industrial Helix wrote:The graphics texture is missing a certain something... I'm not sure what.


How about more cracks?

I like the cement block feeling, very Cold War imo. So that's good. But the colors are too purely put on there. Could you weather them some?


Like... flaking paint or something?

Industrial Helix wrote:The mountains are too 3d modeled for the map....


They are temporary. Just something I doodled in a hurry to put the impassables in place. Same with the river & bridges. I'll make them nicer eventually...
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:42 am

Flaking paint would be cool.

oh, and KA-KOW!
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Re: Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:53 am

yay stampage :D
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