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Istanbul [Quenched]

Postby ISN2 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:20 am

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From: World Cities Contest
More info on the contest topic: viewtopic.php?f=467&t=140716

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Number of Territories: 39

Starting Naturals:
  • (3) -> 50. Yil Mh. (In Esenler Continent)
  • (3) -> Saray Mh. (In Umraniye Continent)
  • (3) -> Besiktas (In Besiktas Continent)
  • (3) -> Piri Pasa Mh. (In Beyoglu Continent)

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
   <!-- Istanbul -->
   <continent>
      <name>Esenler</name>
      <bonus>1</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Mumcu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>50. Yil Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Gaziosmanpasa</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Karadeniz Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Yenidogan Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Mevlana Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Guzeltepe Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kagithane</territory>
         <territory>Besiktas</territory>
         <territory>Etiler Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Beyoglu</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Piri Pasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Taksim</territory>
         <territory>Nisantasi</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Fatih</name>
      <bonus>5</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Bayrampasa</territory>
         <territory>Aksaray</territory>
         <territory>Kemal Pasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Topkapi</territory>
         <territory>Inebey Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Gungoren</territory>
         <territory>Zeytinburnu</territory>
         <territory>Zeytinlik Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Goztepe</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kanlica Mh.</territory>
         <territory>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</territory>
         <territory>Istanbul Kent Ormani</territory>
         <territory>Goksu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Elmalikent Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Umraniye</name>
      <bonus>1</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Atakent Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Saray Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Kadikoy</name>
      <bonus>7</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Ferah Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Uskudar</territory>
         <territory>Unalan Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Fetih Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Ayazma Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Zuhtupasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Kadikoy</territory>
         <territory>Atasehir</territory>
         <territory>Bostanci</territory>
         <territory>Fenerbahce Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <territory>
      <name>Mumcu Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>60</smallx>
         <smally>118</smally>
         <largex>75</largex>
         <largey>143</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>50. Yil Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mumcu Mh.</border>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>55</smallx>
         <smally>158</smally>
         <largex>75</largex>
         <largey>192</largey>
      </coordinates>
      <neutral>3</neutral>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Karadeniz Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mumcu Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>94</smallx>
         <smally>137</smally>
         <largex>127</largex>
         <largey>175</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Mevlana Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>184</smallx>
         <smally>149</smally>
         <largex>246</largex>
         <largey>190</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Yenidogan Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>148</smallx>
         <smally>167</smally>
         <largex>198</largex>
         <largey>217</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Guzeltepe Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
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         <smallx>229</smallx>
         <smally>112</smally>
         <largex>306</largex>
         <largey>143</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kagithane</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Nisantasi</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>264</smallx>
         <smally>177</smally>
         <largex>355</largex>
         <largey>227</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Etiler Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>355</smallx>
         <smally>140</smally>
         <largex>475</largex>
         <largey>182</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Nisantasi</border>
         <border>Taksim</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>312</smallx>
         <smally>201</smally>
         <largex>417</largex>
         <largey>261</largey>
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      <neutral>3</neutral>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Piri Pasa Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Nisantasi</border>
         <border>Taksim</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>213</smallx>
         <smally>215</smally>
         <largex>282</largex>
         <largey>279</largey>
      </coordinates>
      <neutral>3</neutral>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Nisantasi</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Taksim</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>265</smallx>
         <smally>251</smally>
         <largex>364</largex>
         <largey>329</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Taksim</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Nisantasi</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>225</smallx>
         <smally>285</smally>
         <largex>321</largex>
         <largey>356</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>72</smallx>
         <smally>226</smally>
         <largex>96</largex>
         <largey>299</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Bayrampasa</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Aksaray</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>140</smallx>
         <smally>276</smally>
         <largex>188</largex>
         <largey>361</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Aksaray</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>172</smallx>
         <smally>284</smally>
         <largex>232</largex>
         <largey>371</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kemal Pasa Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Aksaray</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Topkapi</border>
         <border>Taksim</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>190</smallx>
         <smally>325</smally>
         <largex>249</largex>
         <largey>428</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Topkapi</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>249</smallx>
         <smally>335</smally>
         <largex>329</largex>
         <largey>434</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Gungoren</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Zeytinburnu</border>
         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>31</smallx>
         <smally>316</smally>
         <largex>45</largex>
         <largey>412</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Zeytinlik Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Zeytinburnu</border>
         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smally>366</smally>
         <largex>45</largex>
         <largey>484</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Zeytinburnu</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
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         <largey>483</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Inebey Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Zeytinburnu</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Aksaray</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kanlica Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
         <border>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>440</smallx>
         <smally>153</smally>
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         <largey>190</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
      </borders>
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         <smally>161</smally>
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         <largey>197</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Goksu Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
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         <largey>283</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Istanbul Kent Ormani</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</border>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
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         <largey>223</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Elmalikent Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Saray Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
      </borders>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Atakent Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>471</smallx>
         <smally>329</smally>
         <largex>625</largex>
         <largey>430</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Ferah Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
      </borders>
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         <smally>261</smally>
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         <largey>343</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Uskudar</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smallx>368</smallx>
         <smally>313</smally>
         <largex>492</largex>
         <largey>409</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Unalan Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
      </borders>
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         <smally>338</smally>
         <largex>540</largex>
         <largey>444</largey>
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:26 pm

jakewilliams wrote:I like the look of Istanbul, but I don't like the tilt to it, I think that it's too much and makes it too hard to read.


MrBenn wrote:This got my vote - even though there is a little bit too much tilt to the map (which can be easily rectified later)


Industrial Helix wrote:I rather like the Istanbul one especially. I mean, the tilt is a little too intense, as other have said.

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ironsij0287 on Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:41 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
jakewilliams wrote:I like the look of Istanbul, but I don't like the tilt to it, I think that it's too much and makes it too hard to read.


MrBenn wrote:This got my vote - even though there is a little bit too much tilt to the map (which can be easily rectified later)


Industrial Helix wrote:I rather like the Istanbul one especially. I mean, the tilt is a little too intense, as other have said.


Yeah the tilt, which automatically made me look for a north arrow on it. Also to add to the nitpick pile the labels on the small map are pretty small. I can read them but some take a second or so to make them out. Not sure if you could scale them up just a hair.

Otherwise great map and I look forward to playing it.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:49 pm

ISN2, congratulations on winning the contest.
Just a couple of issues for me.
1. There is nothing graphically on this map that says "istanbul" to me apart from the title. Are you planning anything graphical to alter that.
2. Is not connected spelled with 2 "n"s ?
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby zimmah on Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:32 am

if you still need someone to do the XML when the graphics are finished, i'd be happy to make it for you.

I have done the XML for Oasis, Iceland and Operation Drug War. so i am experienced.

As for the grpahics, maybe add a small turkish flag to the red area where it sais Istanbul city map, and add some typically turkish image in the sea or something, to make it actually get the 'istanbul feel'
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:17 am

I agree with cairns, there's nothing that screams Istanbul in the graphical design of the map. Also, I'd argue Gazio is a +3, since it has three borders and four territories. And especially with Esenler there, you could have both with still three borders for a +6 with the current values (which is certainly nowhere near as hard to hold as Fatih!) - it would at least be only +5 with my suggested Gazio value. Also, Guztepe is not worth more than +4 - 4 borders, 5 territories. Honestly, I think you could also stand to raise Fatih and Kadikoy by +1 each, but that's not entirely necessary - use your judgement there.

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:00 pm

Could someone please enlighten me as to the meaning of the "Mh." abbreviation?
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ISN2 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:54 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
jakewilliams wrote:I like the look of Istanbul, but I don't like the tilt to it, I think that it's too much and makes it too hard to read.


MrBenn wrote:This got my vote - even though there is a little bit too much tilt to the map (which can be easily rectified later)


Industrial Helix wrote:I rather like the Istanbul one especially. I mean, the tilt is a little too intense, as other have said.

The tilt is of course what I'm going to reduce ...
I got this suggestion exactly when I submitted my map too ...

ironsij0287 wrote:Yeah the tilt, which automatically made me look for a north arrow on it. Also to add to the nitpick pile the labels on the small map are pretty small. I can read them but some take a second or so to make them out. Not sure if you could scale them up just a hair.

Otherwise great map and I look forward to playing it.

I believe labels in small map will be read better after I reduce tilt, but if not, then I will work on them.

cairnswk wrote:ISN2, congratulations on winning the contest.
Just a couple of issues for me.
1. There is nothing graphically on this map that says "istanbul" to me apart from the title. Are you planning anything graphical to alter that.
2. Is not connected spelled with 2 "n"s ?
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Thanks, about #1, the map idea is a desk with some real maps, a pen and a note on it (The desk of someone who is going to travel to Istanbul maybe), if you look at real maps you can see that a small part of them is the name of the map. I have an old map of Istanbul myself and the folded upper part of it is the name of the map in white with red background and the idea of that name in my map is from there, I guess it's enough but if you think there is really another graphically name/title needed then let me know where and how more specific ...

About #2, yeah right, my bad, I'm going to fix it ...

zimmah wrote:if you still need someone to do the XML when the graphics are finished, i'd be happy to make it for you.

I have done the XML for Oasis, Iceland and Operation Drug War. so i am experienced.

As for the grpahics, maybe add a small turkish flag to the red area where it sais Istanbul city map, and add some typically turkish image in the sea or something, to make it actually get the 'istanbul feel'

Thanks for the help offer, I will ask for help If I needed. I think I can do it myself btw ...
The flag idea could be cool, I will try it to see if it gets interesting ...

Victor Sullivan wrote:I agree with cairns, there's nothing that screams Istanbul in the graphical design of the map. Also, I'd argue Gazio is a +3, since it has three borders and four territories. And especially with Esenler there, you could have both with still three borders for a +6 with the current values (which is certainly nowhere near as hard to hold as Fatih!) - it would at least be only +5 with my suggested Gazio value. Also, Guztepe is not worth more than +4 - 4 borders, 5 territories. Honestly, I think you could also stand to raise Fatih and Kadikoy by +1 each, but that's not entirely necessary - use your judgement there.

-Sully

About "Istanbul in the graphical design of the map" refer to my above comment.
About bonuses I think you are right about all of them, I guess others also can comment on bonuses to see if we can get an overall balanced idea ...

ender516 wrote:Could someone please enlighten me as to the meaning of the "Mh." abbreviation?

I'm not sure but it may be the abbreviation for "Mahale" which means something like a district in English ...
I extracted all names from Google Maps so I'm not sure if they are well spelled or not. You can check it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Istanbul&hl=en&ie=UTF8&view=map&ftid=0x14caa7040068086b:0xe1ccfe98bc01b0d0&ftt=37&geocode=FdawcQIdQCe6AQ&split=0&sll=41.061768,28.713881&sspn=0.518036,1.485149&iwloc=A&ved=0CA8QpQY&sa=X&ei=jKT_Tc9xje-OB-GZ-JUI
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby MrBenn on Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:31 pm

Minimise the rotation and crop tightly to the map... If you move the bonus legend on top of the sea area, then you'll have very little wasted space - and it doesn;t matter that the map is smaller than the available canvas... sometimes it's nice to see a map that isn;t overly large

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ISN2 on Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:43 am

MrBenn wrote:Minimise the rotation and crop tightly to the map... If you move the bonus legend on top of the sea area, then you'll have very little wasted space - and it doesn;t matter that the map is smaller than the available canvas... sometimes it's nice to see a map that isn;t overly large

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Nice idea about moving the note (bonus legend) ...

Shall I go on with these ideas? Aren't there any more?
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby MrBenn on Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:35 pm

ISN2 wrote:Shall I go on with these ideas? Aren't there any more?

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:59 pm

For some reason I am just not feeling this map... Istanbul is not what I think of when I see this map. I am not sure what I think of, but not Istanbul
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:38 am

Bruceswar wrote:For some reason I am just not feeling this map... Istanbul is not what I think of when I see this map. I am not sure what I think of, but not Istanbul


I think the theme, while revolving around Istanbul, as a core, also incorporates the 'traveler-motif'---which I think it develops well. It is not unlike Route 66, which plays on the traveler-motif as well.


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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ISN2 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:54 pm

Here is the new temp version of large one, let me know if it's cool or if it needs any change so then I can create the small one too ...

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:32 pm

I think you can crop out a lot of that empty space at the top.

Second, what does the map underneath say?

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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby DiM on Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:52 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Second, what does the map underneath say?

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i think it's supposed to say Turkey Roads but it says Turkay Roads.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:02 pm

ISN2 wrote:...
Thanks, about #1, the map idea is a desk with some real maps, a pen and a note on it (The desk of someone who is going to travel to Istanbul maybe), if you look at real maps you can see that a small part of them is the name of the map. I have an old map of Istanbul myself and the folded upper part of it is the name of the map in white with red background and the idea of that name in my map is from there, I guess it's enough but if you think there is really another graphically name/title needed then let me know where and how more specific ...
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I understand the travellers theme, that's OK. Perhaps a post card of the Santa Sofia (or some other image from Istanbul) sitting under the top right corner with the pen angled over it.
Also, the legend, is that meant to be a ticket or similar? Perhaps it needs a slight enhancement to look like something that a traveller would use.
I hope this helps. :)
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:16 pm

I'm glad to see this one made it to the forge... it was one of my favorite submissions to the contest.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby $nakeface on Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:55 pm

it might be cool if you put some photos of some landmarks from istanbul in the picture, like polaroids scattered on the desk. it'd be a good way to reinforce the 'traveller-motif' while addressing some concerns of the map not having much cultural relevance.

just a suggestion.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby ironsij0287 on Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:08 am

$nakeface wrote:it might be cool if you put some photos of some landmarks from istanbul in the picture, like polaroids scattered on the desk. it'd be a good way to reinforce the 'traveller-motif' while addressing some concerns of the map not having much cultural relevance.

just a suggestion.


I like the Polaroid idea. There's a really cool freeware program called Poladroid that can take any image and make it look like a Polaroid photo.

http://www.poladroid.net/

Maybe if you get some images of Istanbul you like you could run it through that and then layer them around the map on the open desk areas. I used Poladroid recently for this map I created for my buddy's bar crawl around Wrigley Field.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby MrBenn on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:54 am

Bruceswar wrote:For some reason I am just not feeling this map... Istanbul is not what I think of when I see this map. I am not sure what I think of, but not Istanbul
Nearly 100 people voted for it in the contest, so the point is moot :P

Victor Sullivan wrote:I think you can crop out a lot of that empty space at the top.
Rotating the map by another 30ish degrees anticlockwise (so it's tilted slightly the other way) will enable you to crop a bit more tightly, as the background card is less important than the front one.

DiM wrote:i think it's supposed to say Turkey Roads but it says Turkay Roads.
That typo needs to be fixed :P

cairnswk wrote:I understand the travellers theme, that's OK. Perhaps a post card of the Santa Sofia (or some other image from Istanbul) sitting under the top right corner with the pen angled over it.
Also, the legend, is that meant to be a ticket or similar? Perhaps it needs a slight enhancement to look like something that a traveller would use.
I hope this helps. :)
$nakeface wrote:it might be cool if you put some photos of some landmarks from istanbul in the picture, like polaroids scattered on the desk. it'd be a good way to reinforce the 'traveller-motif' while addressing some concerns of the map not having much cultural relevance.
These are very good suggestions.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby Boler on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:09 am

This is probably a little late to be said in Final Forge, but I thought it might be amusing if there were some pen scribbles on the map. Well, not accually scribbles, but more of a doodle of a famous landmark in Istanbul where it is on the map. Or perhaps label the Sea of Marmara (at the bottom) or the canal in rushed printing. Or a circle around where his/her hotel is. Like traveller's notes just jotted down on it.

I was just thinking, because there's a pen there...

It would be a big change but I'm just throwing it out there if you want to try it.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby DiM on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:26 am

MrBenn wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:For some reason I am just not feeling this map... Istanbul is not what I think of when I see this map. I am not sure what I think of, but not Istanbul
Nearly 100 people voted for it in the contest, so the point is moot :P


i think what bruceswar wanted to say is that the map does not have an instanbul flavour. nothing turkish about it.

maybe instead of the pen there could be a fez. or perhaps a box of lokum.
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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:08 pm

DiM wrote:
MrBenn wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:For some reason I am just not feeling this map... Istanbul is not what I think of when I see this map. I am not sure what I think of, but not Istanbul
Nearly 100 people voted for it in the contest, so the point is moot :P


i think what bruceswar wanted to say is that the map does not have an instanbul flavour. nothing turkish about it.

maybe instead of the pen there could be a fez. or perhaps a box of lokum.


As I mentioned, I think the motif the map incorporates is more the traveler aesthetic, which I think it can develop more. I think the idea of landmarks of Istanbul is a good way to add Turkish flavor, without adding things that are outside of the aesthetic, like a Fez.


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Re: [World Cities Contest] - Istanbul

Postby zimmah on Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:24 am

ISN2 wrote:Here is the new temp version of large one, let me know if it's cool or if it needs any change so then I can create the small one too ...

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