[CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Leehar on Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:39 am

angola wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:someone tl;dr this for me?

tl;dr

You suggesting we shouldn't (don't) instead of that we haven't (didn't)?

I think even the boil down was too much for me, all I got was way too much complication
Namor wrote:
Incandenza wrote:
angola wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:someone tl;dr this for me?

tl;dr


:lol: Good one.

Nothing against stahr, I'm sure she put a lot of time and effort into the above document, but said document's very existence is an excellent example of why clan wars are not nearly as fun as they were even a year ago. Other excellent examples reside in the C&A forum.

Maybe such precipitous decline was inevitable, given the explosive popularity of clans. No matter what the venture, there are always going to be people who ignore the spirit of the enterprise and instead probe the edges of the rules looking for advantage.


Like deliberately running out of time, to avoid taking a spoil. A cheap tactic, that even a top clan feels the need to do :(

I think this should just go the way of the fog rule that was so valiantly expounded on in your thread. Since there isn't really a site feature for it, then it just comes down to policing between the clans if they're heavily against it.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Incandenza on Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Namor wrote:Like deliberately running out of time, to avoid taking a spoil. A cheap tactic, that even a top clan feels the need to do :(


:-k Um, are you speaking specifically about someone?
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby stahrgazer on Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:48 pm

Incandenza wrote:
angola wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:someone tl;dr this for me?

tl;dr


:lol: Good one.

Nothing against stahr, I'm sure she put a lot of time and effort into the above document,


Yes, alas, it took an entire hour to consolidate the opinions gleaned from this, the Clan Medals thread, and jp's desire to make "clan wars farming" more punishable than CC farming policies into the document you saw. An entire hour! Okay, maybe it was 75 minutes. (The main point here is, it didn't take 2 months 8-) )

The even more boiled-down version is:
Don't throw or benefit from thrown wars, don't stall, don't deadbeat, finish the wars you started, don't try to get medals by just picking on newer clans, enjoy clan war tournaments, and make sure a lot of people play the wars rather than just a handful of experts.

Honestly, for people who supposedly know how to read, I can't see what's so complex. It gets wordy simply because of definitions and rationale....and the definitions and rationale are all based on the majority opinion found in the threads I can view where the public discussed or questioned clan medals rules.

If you leave out definitions and rationale from a manual, you're left with precisely the situation we've had re: this Cup skirmish, disagreement as to interpretations that vary from situation to situation. If, instead, you provide that information right in a manual that the appropriate folks get to review before publishing, why, then, everyone can understand right up front what will and will not happen in a situation, eliminating tons of flack later on. That is what a manual is for.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby jetsetwilly on Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:38 pm

Incandenza wrote:
Namor wrote:Like deliberately running out of time, to avoid taking a spoil. A cheap tactic, that even a top clan feels the need to do :(


:-k Um, are you speaking specifically about someone?


It's a reference to our current league challenge, not the cup ;)
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Lubawski on Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:54 pm

Chuck, what happens when a clan fails to respond about sending the last set of games? It's well after the two weeks. We're trying to be accommodating, but it's going to be delaying the tournament and we would like to continue.

If it's just a matter of waiting until COF can join the games, we don't mind someone joining them for him. We won't tell Josko. :D
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Namor on Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:40 am

Lubawski wrote:Chuck, what happens when a clan fails to respond about sending the last set of games? It's well after the two weeks. We're trying to be accommodating, but it's going to be delaying the tournament and we would like to continue.

If it's just a matter of waiting until COF can join the games, we don't mind someone joining them for him. We won't tell Josko. :D


Now come on Mike, play the game, old boy... you wouldn't expect CoF to cut his holiday short :lol:
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Ace Rimmer on Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:59 am

Lubawski wrote:Chuck, what happens when a clan fails to respond about sending the last set of games? It's well after the two weeks. We're trying to be accommodating, but it's going to be delaying the tournament and we would like to continue.

If it's just a matter of waiting until COF can join the games, we don't mind someone joining them for him. We won't tell Josko. :D


Who did you PM? Dako and Iron Maid have both been on holidays lately, maybe it got missed. There's been no talk in our forum or the EMPIRE v TOFU thread about it.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Lubawski on Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:58 am

Ace Rimmer wrote:
Lubawski wrote:Chuck, what happens when a clan fails to respond about sending the last set of games? It's well after the two weeks. We're trying to be accommodating, but it's going to be delaying the tournament and we would like to continue.

If it's just a matter of waiting until COF can join the games, we don't mind someone joining them for him. We won't tell Josko. :D


Who did you PM? Dako and Iron Maid have both been on holidays lately, maybe it got missed. There's been no talk in our forum or the EMPIRE v TOFU thread about it.


According to the rules of this event, it's an every two weeks unless otherwise determined by the clans. We started last batch just after the 4th of July. It's been 3 weeks. We were in contact before around two weekends ago and agreed to hold off until CoF could get back into the swing of things which we were told would be last Monday/Tuesday. Then we heard he was having computer problems and it would be a couple more days. It's been several now. Ninja sent another PM on Friday which has gone unanswered. I'm sure a lot is going on right now, but we do need to keep this moving along. If all of TOFU leadership is on holiday and nothing has been planned for round 3, that is pretty irresponsible and highly unbelievable. Dako had time to sign TOFU up for the ACC, I'm sure there was time for round 3 games.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Ace Rimmer on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 pm

We did the 4th of July, which was earlier than necessary, because one of your members wanted to get R2 started, I forget who. I'm in contact with Dako about this.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Dako on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 pm

We will send TOFU home games this Friday.

Sorry for the late response and silence in the PMs.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Ace Rimmer on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:12 pm

We are not multis! :)
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Lubawski on Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:10 pm

Thanks guys. I just wanted to keep this thing moving along.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Dako on Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:15 pm

No problems. I was away this weekend and this issue with IR got us unprepared.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby Lubawski on Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:17 pm

Understandable. We're just happy to keep moving.
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Re: [CC2] 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

Postby chemefreak on Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:20 pm

All-

We will be issuing medals for the CC2 over the next few hours. The process of getting the medals out was authorized by jpcloet and it has just taken us a while to get the 22 completed wars analyzed. Masli has given the thumbs up so they will be out shortly.

Of course, LoW will not be receiving medals for beating ++The Legion++ as that was clearly farming ;)

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