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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby DiM on Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:49 am

zimmah wrote:lol omg Game 9631516

6players. 4 bonus monkeys.

are those games always like this?



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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:59 am

zimmah wrote:lol omg Game 9631516

6players. 4 bonus monkeys.

are those games always like this?


It appears that one of your "monkeys" won that game.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby danryan on Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:06 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
zimmah wrote:lol omg Game 9631516

6players. 4 bonus monkeys.

are those games always like this?


It appears that one of your "monkeys" won that game.


It doesn't mean that their play won them the game. When 4 out of 6 players use suboptimal strategy the best player usually will not win. Hence good players stay out of these type of games.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby BYUwonder11 on Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:10 pm

danryan wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
zimmah wrote:lol omg Game 9631516

6players. 4 bonus monkeys.

are those games always like this?


It appears that one of your "monkeys" won that game.


It doesn't mean that their play won them the game. When 4 out of 6 players use suboptimal strategy the best player usually will not win. Hence good players stay out of these type of games.


Well by definition if they're using a suboptimal strategy, then they're not GOOD players even, much less the best right? :) What you've said here though danryan is true though, gotta play your strengths and know the games where you'll be able to employ them
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby firsal901 on Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:12 am

take it if you can hold it.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby darth emperor on Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:00 am

Elmo9199 wrote:take it if you can hold it.

Correction: take if they can't (even try to) break it
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby zimmah on Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:53 am

DiM wrote:
zimmah wrote:lol omg Game 9631516

6players. 4 bonus monkeys.

are those games always like this?



that's what you get for joining public games.
stick to games with people you know and you will have a lot of fun as well as a friendly chat.


k i'll spam you with invites then :lol:
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby laughingcavalier on Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:41 pm

I grew up playing escalating adjacent, usually 3-4 players & we always played for bonuses. I often wonder if I would beat my younger self.
Bonuses can help on big maps like ww2 europe or biggish unusual maps like aom even in 6-8 player games.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby pickleofdoom on Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:12 pm

BYUwonder11 wrote:
danryan wrote:....

It doesn't mean that their play won them the game. When 4 out of 6 players use suboptimal strategy the best player usually will not win. Hence good players stay out of these type of games.


Well by definition if they're using a suboptimal strategy, then they're not GOOD players even, much less the best right? ....


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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby pickleofdoom on Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:19 pm

Its true that you get a lot of random stuff in public games. For a good quality game, probably best to avoid those games, I cannot deny it. But I do have a soft spot for them.

After all, it is also true that often the best player doesnt win in private games too. Sometimes you win because you go after someone misses a kill or you loose when you had an easy sweep but get bad dice. I tend to regard the bonus-grabbers as another random factor, like the dice. Its a bit like having adverse weather conditions in sport.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby Gillipig on Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:30 am

Coming from someone who's good at 4 player esc games but bad at 6 player esc games, I can tell you that being a bonus monkey is the name of the game in most 4 player esc games.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby firsal901 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:45 am

Gillipig wrote:Coming from someone who's good at 4 player esc games but bad at 6 player esc games, I can tell you that being a bonus monkey is the name of the game in most 4 player esc games.


I'd agree to that.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby neanderpaul14 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:54 pm

laughingcavalier wrote:I grew up playing escalating adjacent, usually 3-4 players & we always played for bonuses. I often wonder if I would beat my younger self.
Bonuses can help on big maps like ww2 europe or biggish unusual maps like aom even in 6-8 player games.



But would you beat yourself now? :P :P :P
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby danryan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:25 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:
laughingcavalier wrote:I grew up playing escalating adjacent, usually 3-4 players & we always played for bonuses. I often wonder if I would beat my younger self.
Bonuses can help on big maps like ww2 europe or biggish unusual maps like aom even in 6-8 player games.



But would you beat yourself now? :P :P :P



Not any more.






Not any less either.
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Re: When Is It OK To Bonus Monkey?

Postby betiko on Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:19 pm

i think the strategy depends not only on the number of players, but their profile.
with noobs each one is going for a continent. after you can have noobs that sit and watch each other, or that try to take out each other's bonus. so with lesser experienced players i do get a continent bonus sometimes, or I just stack and wait for them to piss each other off.
with experienced players I always play 6 players so no bonus monkeys obviously; and with3-4 experienced players i might go for a bonus cause the trades go way slower, the bonuses are easier to get cause you have more of yours per continent as well.
anyway, it all depends on the number of players and the way they play..
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