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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby natty dread on Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:41 pm

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ender516 wrote:I suspect that the problem is that the requirement is evaluated when a player loses a territory.


The requirements are evaluated whenever you conquer/bombard a territory, nuke a country, or are hit by a killer neutral. So if you do not meet a requirement from the initial game drop you might have a chance to conquer it and become safe.


No, that doesn't make sense. I've seen many times a situation where if I take someone's losing condition, they are instantly eliminated. So they did not conquer/bombard, nuke or be hit by a killer neutral, but got eliminated when I took their territory.

Maybe you mean, that the conditions are checked when anyone conquers/bombards, nukes etc., but that doesn't make sense either, since yellow would already have been eliminated then in that baseball game.

So how do the conditions actually work?
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:29 pm

I think he means the last losing condition territory of someone's must be assaulted/bombarded/etc. in order for the losing condition to take effect.

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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:03 pm

My previous post was the official explanation, written by lackattack, so it makes sense. ;)

In this case the yellow player can be eliminated only if someone will attack him and take at least one home run in that game.
In fact each time your region is conquered or is neutralized (from bombardment, nuked or via killer neutrals) the game engine will check to see if you still hold the requirements; if not, you are instantly eliminated from the game.
If they don't attack him, losing conditions are not checked. That's the answer, as ender said the player must lose a region or nothing will happen. :)

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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby ender516 on Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:20 pm

Right, the losing condition was not in the XML when yellow lost his pitcher, so he was not eliminated then. Now that the XML has changed, there has not been an action which would trigger the evaluation of yellow's requirement.
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:08 pm

Anything else that needs to be changed on this one?
Are we happy with it as it is now?

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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:50 pm

Last Call

If anyone has any other comments on tweaking the gameplay/graphics, now is the time to speak up! If there are no other concerns within the next couple of days, this map will be quenched!

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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:33 pm

              Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the Baseball: King of Diamonds Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations Evil DIMwit and natty_dread, your shiny new medals are well-earned =D>


Conquer Club, enjoy!
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby MarshalNey on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:18 pm

Congrats EvilD for the gameplay and layout- as you say in the intro, this idea has been tried many times without success, so it was an ambitious project from the start and you made it work. And congrats natty for the graphics and saving the map when rl took away EvilD's time- you know you're becoming like a lifeguard for endangered maps.

I really can't say enough about how impressed I am with this map, because it models the actual game pretty well and yet it doesn't feel like an overly complicated map. I think the easy-on-the-eyes graphics go a long way towards that end.

Again, a well deserved congratulations to you both =D>
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:23 pm

=D> =D> =D> Yes, congratulations to the both of you!! =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby Leehar on Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:36 pm

gratz guys, what took so long? ;)
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:37 pm

Leehar wrote:gratz guys, what took so long? ;)


It had to go to extra innings! :lol:
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:49 pm

Congrats! Does the winning team get to play the Myrmidons? ;)

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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby ender516 on Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:48 am

I love a classical reference. (Say, Myrmidons would make a great clan name, don't you think?)

Congratulations, Evil and natty!
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby mr. CD on Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:43 pm

Grats and thanks for a lovely map!
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby TaCktiX on Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:47 am

I think this got missed, but LI7 is mistakenly capitalized so it looks like "II7" in the game log.
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby steadman1969 on Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:28 pm

Hi, I am playing this map for my first time, with fog of war on. I was wondering if you would consider making the Baseballs on the field reset to neutral as soon as you finish you turn as the next player can just follow which ball you hit to making fog of war pointless and penalizing you for hitting first.

Just a thought :)
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:31 pm

steadman1969 wrote:Hi, I am playing this map for my first time, with fog of war on. I was wondering if you would consider making the Baseballs on the field reset to neutral as soon as you finish you turn as the next player can just follow which ball you hit to making fog of war pointless and penalizing you for hitting first.

Just a thought :)


Sorry the current XML doesn't work in that way, though that is an interesting thought.
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby jimfinn on Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:00 am

This current format leaves lots of tactical possibilities though - you can for example attack one baseball and leave a 1, then attack somewhere else, for example. Make your opponent guess which is right
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby kuma32478 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:01 am

Why is Hank not able to attack RF 4? Ted can attack all the way to the LF line
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby Srsays21 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:16 pm

Looking at the map, it occured to me you might be able to incorporate steals. Maybe 1st base can assault 2nd base? My other question is why 15 on the mound? Looks great, keep it up!
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby kuma32478 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:01 pm

kuma32478 wrote:Why is Hank not able to attack RF 4? Ted can attack all the way to the LF line


Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby Gilligan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:05 pm

kuma32478 wrote:
kuma32478 wrote:Why is Hank not able to attack RF 4? Ted can attack all the way to the LF line


Any thoughts on this?


It's up to 2 territories away... RF4 is 3 away from Hank
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby kuma32478 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:06 pm

Right, but why would you have LF be different from RF?
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby chapcrap on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 am

kuma32478 wrote:Right, but why would you have LF be different from RF?

Because you don't want a completely symmetric map.
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Re: Baseball: King of Diamonds (v15 p.27)

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:59 pm

LI7 is listed as II7 in the XML.
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