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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:55 am

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isaiah40 wrote:A couple of things. One you are going to have to change Lord of the Flies to something else. That is a name of a book and movie. Secondly, you are going to have to add in some impassables to keep this from being totally open. I know, cattle don't have impassables on them, but for a game they do.

Bones. They have bones.


Yea, but the muscles are wrapped around the bones. Using bones as impassbles would keep with the theme.

Diseased bits.
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:34 am

Interesting comments.

Here are my thoughts.

In terms of impassable barriers, I over-layed a skeleton over the map, and it just looks messy. I do however feel I have a solution. I can add fat deposits that would look similar to the fat that you get on the edge of a cut of beef. This way I can put the barriers on any edge and it will look good.

I do wonder if barriers are needed look at a map like "Conquer 4 Map". That has no barriers and it works.

In terms of the name for the Fly region. I am aware of the book "Lord of the Flies" and think it's a really cool name. Who wouldn't want to be the lord of the flies?
If possible I'd like to keep the name. Would I need to change it for legal reasons? As I understand the law I would be able to use it because it's a parody, but I'm no expert.

I am working on the XML code and wondered how much space do I need for the numbers? Foe example do I need to make space for a four digit number.

I will post a new version of the map soon.

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:37 pm

With the impassables, I have been having the same argument in my thread (Knights) and see no reason why you should have them, but it can make for some interesting game options. Giving players a choice around the map would make for a better type of game. Make the right choice and you win the game, make the wrong choice and you may lose. I would say to put them in your map and using the fat is a great idea (use it). Will have a look at give you some suggestions on where to place your fat deposits.

As for Lord of the Flies, it is in the public domain so you can use it for anything. It is one of those phrases that is now part of normal vocab so it cannot be copyrighted.
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:43 pm

These are between bonus zones.
Neck and chuck/shoulder
Brisket and Foreshank
Inner skirt/plate and standing rib
Top flank and tri tip
Rump and ox tail

These ones are inside bonus zones
Top neck and neck and cheek
Rib eye cap and back rib
eye of round and rump
chuck eye and chuck

That should give your players plenty of choices around the map. A thin layer of fat should not mess up the map too much. ;)
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby Flapcake on Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:58 pm

Hi dana1971

suggestion for impassables: butchers knifes that cut/slice in to the meat and creating wounds between the areas
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:47 pm

dana1971 wrote:I am working on the XML code and wondered how much space do I need for the numbers? Foe example do I need to make space for a four digit number.


Don't worry about the XML right now, as the map will go through plenty of changes by the time it gets into the Final Forge.
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby MrBenn on Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:05 pm

How the hell does this thread even have six pages of posts and a supersize stamp, let alone a draft stamp? :shock:
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:40 pm

MrBenn wrote:How the hell does this thread even have six pages of posts and a supersize stamp, let alone a draft stamp? :shock:

Now, now, Mr. Off Duty... ;)

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:20 pm

Yeah, I have to say that this needn't be supersize..
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:54 pm

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:00 pm

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ManBungalow wrote:Yeah, I have to say that this needn't be supersize..


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I would like to propose Doodle Cow.
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby cairnswk on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:05 pm

tnb80
how the hell did many of my maps get through the process?
how the hell did chinese checkers get through?
same question can be ask of other maps
in my mind, it is simply thinking outside the square of land regions and applying that same principle of the game to another graphic idea.
if there is support for the idea then so be it :)

PS: and you know there may just be something educational in this...showing where all the different cuts of meat come from on a beast, if it sticks in players head about that, then i'd be inclined to think it is worthwhile :)
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:17 pm

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:18 pm

MrBenn wrote:How the hell does this thread even have six pages of posts and a supersize stamp, let alone a draft stamp? :shock:


Is six pages bad or good? This is my first map, so I'm not experienced to know?

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:21 pm

dana1971 wrote:
MrBenn wrote:How the hell does this thread even have six pages of posts and a supersize stamp, let alone a draft stamp? :shock:


Is six pages bad or good? This is my first map, so I'm not experienced to know?

Best Wishes,
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Pages don't count so much.
Posts content are more worthy of consideration. ;)

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby dana1971 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:34 pm

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ManBungalow wrote:Yeah, I have to say that this needn't be supersize..


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Wow... I thought the point of CC or any game was to have fun. Sure fighting on a cow is a bit silly, but I think a lot of people, including myself, would find it fun. Think of all the cow jokes people are going to make.

There are some really creatively themed maps on CC that go beyond a traditional war theme, and I'd be honored if this was one of them.

Don't get me wrong I like the standard war theme, but as they say variety is the spice of life and a new theme can't be bad if the game play is good. There are a few non war themed maps on CC and I'd like to see more. It's fun :)

PS if I'm lucky enough to get it published I promise not to force you to play it. :)
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Don't worry it's not maps get done only if thenobodies80 wants them.
If people want it, people will have it. This is how it works. ;)
Simply I don't get it. I'm sorry, but I like to speak frankly to people. That's just my personal opinion.

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby cairnswk on Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:29 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:MOD EDIT: OTHER UNFRIENDLY TEXT REMOVED


Yes I read what you wrote...and i am not saying it is not allowed for you to express your opinion about the map being a bad idea...i was simply giving a counter opinion that is neither in favour or not in favour of the map, but says that if there is support then let it continue, afterall it may just be another "fad" that goes through this place evry now and then.

I certainly wouldn't be telling the mapmaker not to waste their time on the premise of other attempts (as this attempt may prove successful) or whether you though it was a bad idea or not. :idea:
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

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thenobodies80 wrote:MOD EDIT: REMOVED UNFRIENDLY TEXT

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Re: How about a COW map?

Postby danfrank on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:11 pm

denthefrog wrote:
tokle wrote:It should be "sirloin" not "serloin". Right?[/quote
in UK too
also tenderloin is use for pork cut mainly too
in beef its called Fillet
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it depends on where you eat or purchase your meat , tenderloin and filet are interchangeable when it comes to cow :roll:

and as for you dana :lol: i love the map and agree with RJ this should move through rather quickly stay persistent :P
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby natty dread on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:42 pm

THIS MAP IS OFFENSIVE TO VEGANS!
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby The Bison King on Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:04 pm

The way that short ribs border connects to the territories above it is a problem. There's a 4 corners connection between it and the surrounding territories. One of those territories border needs to be staggered so that it is clear where all the connections are.
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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby dana1971 on Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:34 am

ManBungalow wrote: I would like to propose Doodle Cow.


I like this suggestion, but perhaps the map isn't doodley enough?

I'll have to look at Doodle earth for reference.

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Re: Prime Beef: [Oct 29] V03-Page 4- Map Name

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:58 am

I think there is more than enough room for a map like this on CC.

Doodle Earth faced an immense up-hill battle (and I contributed to that up-hill battle at the time), but I'm glad the C.A.s and I didn't try to stop the development of it!


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