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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:56 pm

Well. I lost when a freemium cadet with 2 games played thought it would be best to protect a +2 bonus and took out two of my big stacks. Needless to say, he and I were the first two killed.

Even though I had a feeling it would happen, it's enough for me to guarantee that I will not sign up for any future incarnation of Conquer Cup with the current setup.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Vandal88 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:40 pm

You guys that walk around calling people noobs because they don't play thousands of games at the same time should stop complaining. I only joined CC a few weeks ago but I have been playing risk for over 20 years and I love the game. A game of risk should be fun and I personally enjoy seeking out a continent for a small bonus and proding my opponents borders until the cashes eventually end the game. I have resorted to your so called "escalating strategy" in certain scenerios but to use that as a sole strategy must get redundant and lame. Anyone can stack all their men on one territory and only attacks weak territories that surround them for a card until the cash reaches freakin' 80 or whatever, but that takes no strategy and actually makes the game boring. The game should be about maneuvering and shifting alliances, which comes about best when each player focuses on one or two key regions or continents. Not about creating "stacks". I find the Conquer Cup tournament very boring and disappointing because their are so many supposed "masters at escalating strategy" who have lost focus of the game and ruin it for those of us are here to enjoy ourselves. I got a new term, "stackers", and I won't be using it to describe someone in a positive manner.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:40 pm

Vandal88 wrote:You guys that walk around calling people noobs because they don't play thousands of games at the same time should stop complaining. I only joined CC a few weeks ago but I have been playing risk for over 20 years and I love the game. A game of risk should be fun and I personally enjoy seeking out a continent for a small bonus and proding my opponents borders until the cashes eventually end the game. I have resorted to your so called "escalating strategy" in certain scenerios but to use that as a sole strategy must get redundant and lame. Anyone can stack all their men on one territory and only attacks weak territories that surround them for a card until the cash reaches freakin' 80 or whatever, but that takes no strategy and actually makes the game boring. The game should be about maneuvering and shifting alliances, which comes about best when each player focuses on one or two key regions or continents. Not about creating "stacks". I find the Conquer Cup tournament very boring and disappointing because their are so many supposed "masters at escalating strategy" who have lost focus of the game and ruin it for those of us are here to enjoy ourselves. I got a new term, "stackers", and I won't be using it to describe someone in a positive manner.


Your definition of a 'stacker' (as you've publicly complained about in Game 10038531) is rather misguided. Pink has a presence in five of the six continents - essential to stand a decent chance of eliminating a player whilst also remaining safe himself - while you yourself are confined and vulnerable, as is blue. If anyone was stacking it was you (on Dubai) which has cost you your troops in NA and in all likelihood any chance of winning the game.

You'll find the best (i.e. most successful) players are those who don't create stacks, by your definition, but who ensure they retain a good spread across the board. Who is harder to kill - the player with 6 x 4s spread over six continents or the player with 24 troops covering all six territories in Africa for a measly bonus (measly relative to the value of trades come Round 6)?

As equally important as personal growth in esc games is the protection of other players to prevent them being eliminated by a 3rd party. What's frustrating to a lot of seasoned players is to see their 'safe' 3 or 4 get whacked by someone hell-bent on taking a bonus. In my experience a bonus on the Classic map has never contributed to a win (not when there are four or more players).

This game (CC) can never really compare to playing the board game because it lacks the dynamic of ongoing conversation between the protagonists (you're one of the few, looking at your game chat, who actively seeks to make truces in esc games). Noobs also make mistakes that can cost games, e.g. believing they can attack St.Petersburg from Belarus on the Europe map ;)
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby kchalot on Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:14 pm

I have a bug on the game 10038531 Round 6.
I change my cards, and didn't receive the +2 bonus on two territories (I changed already now because of this 2 bonus ! )
Please tell me, what to do .
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:19 pm

I'm not sure what you mean. Game Log:


2011-11-10 22:48:31 - kchalot got bonus of 2 troops added to Lagos
2011-11-10 22:48:31 - kchalot got bonus of 2 troops added to Beijing
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2011-11-10 22:51:00 - kchalot reinforced Dakar with 2 troops from Lagos

If you didn't get the 2 troops how did you reinforce from Lagos?
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby IR1SH ACE on Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:39 am

sweet....made it threw the first round....Game 9979977

big thanks to all the players in that game for playing a good game with no stupid play.... =D>
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby QoH on Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:32 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:
Your definition of a 'stacker' (as you've publicly complained about in Game 10038531) is rather misguided. Pink has a presence in five of the six continents - essential to stand a decent chance of eliminating a player whilst also remaining safe himself - while you yourself are confined and vulnerable, as is blue. If anyone was stacking it was you (on Dubai) which has cost you your troops in NA and in all likelihood any chance of winning the game.

You'll find the best (i.e. most successful) players are those who don't create stacks, by your definition, but who ensure they retain a good spread across the board. Who is harder to kill - the player with 6 x 4s spread over six continents or the player with 24 troops covering all six territories in Africa for a measly bonus (measly relative to the value of trades come Round 6)?

As equally important as personal growth in esc games is the protection of other players to prevent them being eliminated by a 3rd party. What's frustrating to a lot of seasoned players is to see their 'safe' 3 or 4 get whacked by someone hell-bent on taking a bonus. In my experience a bonus on the Classic map has never contributed to a win (not when there are four or more players).

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Great post CoF. Very good.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Incandenza on Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:01 pm

QoH wrote:Great post CoF. Very good.


Concur. And considerably more polite and profanity-free than mine would have been. :D
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby jackal31 on Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:29 pm

apparently we seasoned vets "stackers" are playing a new kind of Risk then.

CoF, we've been doing it wrong this whole time!
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby s3xt0y on Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:49 pm

epic dice fail for the loss kinda frustrating...player who sat there and did nothing all game won, when the round before their last cash they had 3 troops...
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:27 am

Sure looks like the dice crapped on you there mate. To roll 12-35 and then 22-42 in consecutive turns must have been frustrating, but I guess we've all been there.

Battling my own demons at the moment. I used to play only one or two multiplayer esc at the same time, but at the mo whilst I'm not in many team games I've immersed myself in a lot more. Have just run through my games and of the last 10 where I've held 4 cards at a critical time to trade I've been sitting on two pairs in nine of those 10 games. Wonder what the odds of that is?
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby s3xt0y on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:34 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Sure looks like the dice crapped on you there mate. To roll 12-35 and then 22-42 in consecutive turns must have been frustrating, but I guess we've all been there.

Battling my own demons at the moment. I used to play only one or two multiplayer esc at the same time, but at the mo whilst I'm not in many team games I've immersed myself in a lot more. Have just run through my games and of the last 10 where I've held 4 cards at a critical time to trade I've been sitting on two pairs in nine of those 10 games. Wonder what the odds of that is?

This site tends to show me that drastically improbable things happen way more than they statistically should. The funny thing about my game is he managed to get next to perfect dice right after to eliminate me he had 3 troops had to cash and got 68 I had 53 scattered all over the place and he ended with 61. I wish I could clear a board with dice like that...
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Davie.K on Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:38 pm

If i was to sign up for the next Conquer Cup with my credit card,would the payment be taken instantly or when it starts ?
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:48 pm

Davie.K wrote:If i was to sign up for the next Conquer Cup with my credit card,would the payment be taken instantly or when it starts ?

It would be taken instantly (assuming there is no lag in processing).


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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Davie.K on Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:01 pm

Cheers
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