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Re: [Vacation - valid untill May 2012] - Baltic States

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:54 pm

Why that connfirguration over the current configuration?
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Re: [Vacation - valid untill May 2012] - Baltic States

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:01 pm

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iancanton wrote:my previous comments on the undesirability of a 2-region islands bonus still stand, bruce! this is especially because this bonus is in the corner. if u feel that u really must have a 2-region bonus, then split the central latvia bonus, which i see anyone with any sense avoiding, and merge west estonia with islands estonia.

ian. :)


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Re: [Vacation - valid untill May 2012] - Baltic States

Postby natty dread on Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:29 pm

Bruceswar wrote:Why that connfirguration over the current configuration?


Well, it divides latvia in 5 parts, and it has some basis in real world divisions...

Just an idea I guess.
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Re: [Vacation - valid untill May 2012] - Baltic States

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Using what natty posted... Here are some quick lines to see where the new region borders would be. The black numbers are the number of regions. Bonus Values would have to be agreed on once the borders were reset.

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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:40 am

I think it looks pretty good, there's 2 easy bonuses and each has a bigger bonus to expand to.

A good thing is also that you can use the names of the cultural regions for the bonus areas, so you can avoid the west, east, central etc. notation.
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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:56 am

Right so if we go forward for those boundries then what shall we use for bonus values?

I was thinking

3
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5
5

That is from west to east...


Also what to name the other areas? in Estonia and Lith? Rather than using Central etc.
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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:46 am

I don't know if Estonia or Lithuania have similar names for the areas... maybe you should ask someone from the area if they have any ideas.
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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:19 pm

natty_dread wrote:I don't know if Estonia or Lithuania have similar names for the areas... maybe you should ask someone from the area if they have any ideas.



Looks like I what I will end up doing.
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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:13 pm

Bruceswar wrote:Right so if we go forward for those boundries then what shall we use for bonus values?

I was thinking

3
2
2
5
5

That is from west to east...

These look like good values to me. You will have 2 smaller bonuses in the middle of the map and this is a good thing. So get an update done and posted, then we can get this moved back into the main foundry!!
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Re: Baltic States NewBonuses? P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:06 am

Version 13 Latvia New Bonus Structure.

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What Changed:

Latvia was broken from 4 into 5 bonuses.

Slight Color Changes

Some minor fixes.
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Gillipig on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:06 am

I don't like the colours of this map! I'd like to change all bonus colours except central estonia, south lithuania, west lithuania and west latvia. Have you thought of changing the colour scheme? If you haven't I strongly suggest you should! A fairly standard map gameplay wise like this needs to look brilliant to get people to play it. And finding a harmonious colour theme is absolute key!
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:29 am

Give me some color ideas. I am open to ideas. :)
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby natty dread on Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:00 am

I don't know, the colours are pretty ok. I'd only suggest a few changes:

- west Estonia is way too dark. It needs to be lighter than the sea colour at least.
- West & North Lithuania are too similar. Furthermore, all of Lithuania looks like a bit drab. Maybe you could figure out some other colour for lithuania than a broken yellow - I think a warm green would work the best.
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:14 am

putting the colors aside... how is the game play?
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:17 am

With this update comes the move back!!
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:18 am

isaiah40 wrote:With this update comes the move back!!



Thanks!
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:39 pm

Bruceswar except the island, how many neutral you have on the map and where they are placed?
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:43 pm

My suggestion would be to make one territory in each of the 3 territory bonuses, this will eliminate any initial bonus drops. This will bring you to 43 territories which is a golden number! ;)
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:51 am

thenobodies80 wrote:Bruceswar except the island, how many neutral you have on the map and where they are placed?



Just 1 is all I want.
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:11 am

I would suggest what Isaiah said. Percentages are not so high, but i think it's better to have a neutral in each 3 regions bonus to prevent a lucky drop.
You can have them with just 2 troops if you want, but it's really better to have them.

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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Peter Gibbons on Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:16 pm

natty dread wrote:I don't know, the colours are pretty ok. I'd only suggest a few changes:

- west Estonia is way too dark. It needs to be lighter than the sea colour at least.
- West & North Lithuania are too similar. Furthermore, all of Lithuania looks like a bit drab. Maybe you could figure out some other colour for lithuania than a broken yellow - I think a warm green would work the best.

On board completely with this second suggestion. Maybe keep south Lithuania with that mustard-like color (or a slightly altered version), but I'd work green hues in to the northern and western sections to show real contrast with Latvia.

On the first suggestion, I was actually going to go in the opposite direction and just suggest that you lighten up the color of the sea. I think that would provide an overall contrast with the rest of the map. But I could be wrong and natty dread's suggestion might be equally valid.
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:09 am

thenobodies80 wrote:I would suggest what Isaiah said. Percentages are not so high, but i think it's better to have a neutral in each 3 regions bonus to prevent a lucky drop.
You can have them with just 2 troops if you want, but it's really better to have them.

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Hmm Let me think about this a minute and decide what to do here. I will get back to you soon. As for the color changes lets iron out any more game play issues first I think. The color changes do sound reasonable.
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:14 pm

Soooo Assuming I added 3 more neutrals I would want them to all be only 1, so they could be taken with ease. Now which territories would they be?
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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:48 pm

Not 3 but 4 more neutrals....1 for each region with 3 territories.

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Re: Baltic States Verion 13 P 14

Postby Oneyed on Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:52 am

some notices to graphics. the main colour problems was mentioned by natty, but:

- add one more tree (or move trees) to north between Rapla and Paide
-it looks that hills between Rezekne and Balvi could be moved a little to west (or add next one)
- the connection between Kardla and Kuressaare is a little hard visible and at she small version will be harder, I think

nice looking simple map. simple is great compliment - sometimes is less more as much ;) . especialy I like background :)

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