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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby Gilligan on Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:40 am

strike wolf wrote:http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Gallis

This is what I found. First time I've heard of it too. don't know how likely it would be.


Yeah, this. A gallis is lynched on minority vote.

But yeah, I could be a miller too - forgot about that one.
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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby strike wolf on Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:02 pm

strike wolf wrote:What we have:

1. Strike wolf-claimed 2 shot vig
2. Bgthebrain-claimed2 shot vig (naive?)
3. Andydufresne-Town cop died Night 3
4. Leehar-Naive Cop Killed Night 2
5. Edocsil-Town Doctor died night 1
6. Hippo-Naive doctor Lynched Day 2.
7. Zimmah-claimed mason recruiter. can only recruit vanilla townies.
8, Victor Sullivan-claimed mason Night 1,, 2 and 3 recruiting from Zimmah was used on Andy, Spiesr and me respectively so Victor in this scenario would have had to be a mason from the beginning of the game. With my current theory it may be best to think of this role as a Naive Mason Recruiter
9. Iron Butterfly-claimed VT
10.Gilligan-claimed VT
11. Spiesr-Mafia goon. Thought Zimmah tracked him killing Leehar night 2. Suggests that he was the one who performed the kill so it appears any mafia can perform the kill.
12. soundman- claimed Naive cop
13. Dazza-claimed back up cop


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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:27 pm

strike wolf wrote:What we have:

1. Strike wolf-claimed 2 shot vig
2. Bgthebrain-claimed2 shot vig (naive?)
3. Andydufresne-Town cop died Night 3
4. Leehar-Naive Cop Killed Night 2
5. Edocsil-Town Doctor died night 1
6. Hippo-Naive doctor Lynched Day 2.
7. Zimmah-claimed mason recruiter. can only recruit vanilla townies.
8, Victor Sullivan-claimed mason Night 1,, 2 and 3 recruiting from Zimmah was used on Andy, Spiesr and me respectively so Victor in this scenario would have had to be a mason from the beginning of the game. With my current theory it may be best to think of this role as a Naive Mason Recruiter
9. Iron Butterfly-claimed VT
10. Spiesr-Mafia goon. Thought Zimmah tracked him killing Leehar night 2. Suggests that he was the one who performed the kill so it appears any mafia can perform the kill.
11. soundman- claimed Naive cop
12. Dazza-claimed back up cop
13. Gilligan-unclaimeed.

I strongly believe right now that soundman and Dazza are the remaining scum. With the pairs we have so far they are the two who stand out from the crowd as far as who's who. I believe Zimmah and victor Sullivan's claims as it would have been a big risk to call out Andy as a power role and have him claim VT lynch him and it turns out he was. Zimmah would have been the next on the chopping block. Given what we know Iron Butterfly has already claimed VT and Gilligan appears to be the other vt. I say we follow through on our lynch today, if we lynch correctly, we have Zimmah attempt to recruit either Gilligan or Iron butterfly. Even if Zimmah is killed over night Victor should be able to tell us if the recruit was successful or not. If we are somehow incorrect in the lynch, I say Zimmah attempts to recruit IB to test his role and Dazza investigates Gilligan. I can use my ability to shoot Dazza tonight if we are right but I do not know if it will be necessary. So if town thinks I should, I will but otherwise I'll hold onto it. I will NOT be shooting anyone if we turn out to be wrong somehow.


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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby BGtheBrain on Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:36 pm

Unvote vote soundman
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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby soundman on Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:42 pm

I'm telling you I'm a cop. If you have to lynch me then at least do two things. First, why not validate Gilligan's role? It says he'll survive a majority vote so it should be easy to prove. Two, if he is validated and you still want to kill me then after you find out you're wrong kill dazza. If you think there can't be that many cops then he must be lying.

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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby Gilligan on Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:00 pm

soundman wrote:I'm telling you I'm a cop. If you have to lynch me then at least do two things. First, why not validate Gilligan's role? It says he'll survive a majority vote so it should be easy to prove. Two, if he is validated and you still want to kill me then after you find out you're wrong kill dazza. If you think there can't be that many cops then he must be lying.

Vote Gilligan


It's a 33% chance that I won't be lynched on a majority vote. Either way, the votes are already hammered on you and un-hammerable.
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Re: Interesting Mafia! [8/13] - Day 4 - Mafia's Revenge

Postby zimmah on Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:03 pm

soundman wrote:I'm telling you I'm a cop. If you have to lynch me then at least do two things. First, why not validate Gilligan's role? It says he'll survive a majority vote so it should be easy to prove. Two, if he is validated and you still want to kill me then after you find out you're wrong kill dazza. If you think there can't be that many cops then he must be lying.

Vote Gilligan


i believe you're allready hammered like gilli said, and besides, there's 2 cops DEAD already, it's like a not even 1% chance that you are actually a cop and i think we can safely take that gamble.
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Re: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder

Postby MoB Deadly on Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:11 pm

Day 4 - Final Vote Count

BGtheBrain -
dazza2008 -
Gilligan -
Iron Butterfly -
strike wolf -
(5, LYNCH) soundman - dazza2008, zimmah, strike wolf, Iron Butterfly, BGtheBrain
Victor Sullivan -
zimmah -


With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.


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Re: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder

Postby MoB Deadly on Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:18 pm




The colorful townspeople gathered in the town square to discuss their suspects again. They decided it was time for a mass claim. Soundman claimed Cop. See here's my badge and hand cuffs, I am a cop! They weren't buying it. There are too many cops, you can't be a cop as well! They gathered around soundman, and hung him from a tree.


SOUNDMAN - TOWN NAIVE COP - HAS BEEN LYNCHED!

The town went back home to sleep shaking their head as they try to figure this whole thing out. Who is lying?

IT IS NOW NIGHT4! DEADLINE FOR NIGHT ACTIONS IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 24, AT 4PM EST.


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Re: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder

Postby MoB Deadly on Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:39 pm



The villagers woke up again, but they didn't get much sleep. As the days go by, each townie got more and more scared that they would be the next victim. The drug their feet to the town square and found another body.

BGTHEBRAIN - TOWN NAIVE VIGILANTE - HAS BEEN KILLED. He was riddled with bullets at close range.

They looked around in disgust. Everything looked faded. Actually, it was getting worse by the minute... Slowly everything around them from the water to the clouds began to fade of color. They became darker and darker like a vacuum was sucking the life out of everything..... Then everything went black...

Victor Sullivan - TOWN MASON LEADER - HAS BEEN ENDGAMED.
Zimmah - TOWN MASON - HAS BEEN ENDGAMED.
Victor Sullivan - TOWN MASON LEADER - HAS BEEN ENDGAMED.




CONGRATULATIONS MAFIA!! YOU WIN! =D>

Dazza2008 - Mafia Goon
Iron Butterfly - Mafia Roleblocker
Gilligan - Mafia Godfather

Dead for the greater cause
Spiesr - Mafia Goon
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Re: Interesting Mafia! [7/13] - Night 4 - Oh No! It's the Co

Postby MoB Deadly on Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:39 pm


Setup:

Cop
Naive Cop
Naive Cop

Doctor
Naive Doctor

Vigilante (2 shots)
Naive Vigilante

Mason Leader (Can recruit Naives, no death on trying to recruit mafia)
Mason



Godfather (immune to detecion)
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Roleblocker



Notes:
This game certainly did not play out as I expected. I expected a counter claim first day, from almost every scenario except a mason or mafia claim. If Cop claim, I thought chaos would ensue, and I expected a mislynch or 2. If Doc claim, definitely expected a mislynch and possibly vigi kill. If vigi claim, I expected the 2-shot part make it reputable and maybe go for a no lynch, but the mafia would not know who to kill.

Vigi did not shoot once, which was kind of unexpected. I really thought strike was going to shoot dazza at some point.

The Masons got a tough break this game and didnt get a single successful recruit. Their role PM stated they could recruit "powerless townies", it did not say VTs. They had pretty good odds, statistically, to get someone naive randomly, then I think it would of all "clicked", but it never happened :(. A mix of good recruits and failed recruits could in essence almost turn them into another cop, since they know they are either power role or mafia. I expected them to get one of the naive cops, I thought they would announce I think I am naive, and the masons try to recruit them, but it just didnt work out.

BG was right again, you've got a good nose for the mafia, I dunno how you do it so well. However, you were right for the wrong reasons (except for the fake claim). You were indeed naive (I thought that would cross your mind but it didn't), and the GF was not bulletproof in this game so don't always assume it is 8-) :lol:

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Mafia were not given any fake claims.

Dazza played the town really well with his fake claim.
I was really surprised with spiesr's claim, I really liked it but it was a little ridiculous.

Gilligan submarined pretty well ;)
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This game was okay but not great in my opinion. If I could redo it I would make a mafia goon into another town role. The mafia won too easily despite 2 really early claims. The town were too confused to guess the setup. I believe if they had all day today to debate, I think they could have figured most of it out. especially with IB and Gilligans fake claims. I think I was nervous about the Masons would get too strong had their recruits been successful. Maybe keep the same amount of mafia, but hint better to the masons they should be looking for powerless townies but not necessarily VTs



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Re: Interesting Mafia! GAME OVER ~ MAFIA WINS ~

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:47 pm

Bummer
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Re: Interesting Mafia! GAME OVER ~ MAFIA WINS ~

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:57 pm

It was an easy win for us but it could have been so different if the masons chose other people I guess.

I hated that spiesr made a case and made me claim so early. Sort of helped in the end though :lol:

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Re: Interesting Mafia! GAME OVER ~ MAFIA WINS ~

Postby MoB Deadly on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:03 pm

dazza2008 wrote:It was an easy win for us but it could have been so different if the masons chose other people I guess.

I hated that spiesr made a case and made me claim so early. Sort of helped in the end though :lol:

Good game all.


And Gilligan brought you to L-1 before deadline :lol: :lol:
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Re: Interesting Mafia! GAME OVER ~ MAFIA WINS ~

Postby MoB Deadly on Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:04 pm

Also notable: Andy did well with his softclaim, but at that point the masons thought he was scummy due to a failed recruit.
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