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Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:51 pm

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Map Name: Fragmentation of CSFR
Mapmaker(s): Oneyed
Number of Territories: it would be a small map. 34 regions
Special Features: bonuses are based on two republics insude Czecho Slovak Federal Republic - Czech Republic and Slovak Republic
What Makes This Map Worthy of Being Made: history, small map with "not clasic" gameplay

this is map about fragmentation CzechoSlovak federal republic in 1.1.1993.
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what about to change bonus for capitals and 4 towns to +2 instead +1?
when we look at kraj bonus in the slovak republic here is +2 for each. it is 4 territoreis, 3 to secure. in the czech republic kraj bonus is +4 for every 2 kraje. it is 6 territories, 4 to secure. capital with 4 towns it is 5 territories and 5 to secure.
so I have two ideas:
1, make +2 for every 4 towns (in CR/SR) with capital or
2, make capitals +1 autodeploy.

updated legend.

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updated xml. Praha, Bratislava start n2 instead n3. corrected Kraje instead Kraj in Bratislava negative bonus.

update without Gilligan name.
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redrawn both maps. changed railway.

http://s16.postimage.org/m9kv94ljp/840_02.png
http://s3.postimage.org/bvscy2ger/630x600_02.png

this one with lower opacity of small CR/SR maps in upper right legend/bottom left legend:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4301/840x80002.png
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2420/630x60002.png

and this one with more opacity for small CR/SR maps:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8490/840x80001.png
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9213/630x60001.png

added story to the map. is it better?
thanks to cairnswk, nolefan and x-raider for help with story text.

explained capitals connections
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8075/lastcsfrbigstory2.png

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9620/verylastsmallstory2.png

the xml updated here is the right one.

Oneyed
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby sannemanrobinson on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:40 am

I like it, a small map with different gameplay. You could skip some of the rules so the player doesnt have to read all the manual thats attached to it. Highways are mostly redundant because regions already border each other (Zilma can attack Poprad without a highway). Also if you draw a regional border around the capitals you might not have to explain that in the legend.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:06 am

sannemanrobinson wrote:I like it, a small map with different gameplay.


thanks.
sannemanrobinson wrote:You could skip some of the rules so the player doesnt have to read all the manual thats attached to it.


I will need any help from somebody with better english :)
sannemanrobinson wrote:Highways are mostly redundant because regions already border each other (Zilma can attack Poprad without a highway).


Zilina can not attack Poprad without highway. Zilina must attack SSK (region) and then attack VSK (region) and only then Porad. highway is more important for Slovakia, because there are only three regions and only two borders - ZSK with SSK and SSK with VSK.
sannemanrobinson wrote:Also if you draw a regional border around the capitals you might not have to explain that in the legend.


sounds good. need some more opinions on this.

thansk for your input.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby zimmah on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:21 am

did you just take a map from the internet and put you own graphics over it?

all that small text is really distracting from the map and the font is also not really looking great.

i mean the map itself is acceptable, but i hope you will actually draw something nicer.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby sannemanrobinson on Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:49 am

Oneyed wrote:
sannemanrobinson wrote:You could skip some of the rules so the player doesnt have to read all the manual thats attached to it.


What I meant was: the legend is rather big.

You could reduce this by reducing the amount of rules for the game. Or make it more easy to read like this:

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You will also have to make clear which regions are Czech end which regions are Slovak.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:32 am

I hope legend is clear now. also graphic is completly new, I let the old map as background.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby natty dread on Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:02 am

Is the map image you're using as background free of copyright?
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:24 am

natty_dread wrote:Is the map image you're using as background free of copyright?


hm, never thought about this from this view :) . it is old map used in public, mainly in schools...

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby natty dread on Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:26 am

You need to know for 100% sure that there's no copyright on the image, otherwise you cannot use it here.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:48 am

this is what I know: it is wall map for public usage, anybody could buy it in shop, there is no mention about copyright maybe because it was printed during socialism when nobody cares about copyright.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby natty dread on Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:18 am

Well, you need to be sure. That you think "no one cares about the copyright" isn't enough, you need to find out if the map is copyrighted or not. If it's in the public domain, or has a license that allows use for any purpose, then it's ok to use. Otherwise, not.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:24 pm

natty_dread wrote:Well, you need to be sure. That you think "no one cares about the copyright" isn't enough, you need to find out if the map is copyrighted or not. If it's in the public domain, or has a license that allows use for any purpose, then it's ok to use. Otherwise, not.


I wrote mail them, so we will see...

let´s talk about gameplay and graphics. this version is without copyright problems ;)
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:09 pm

I like this one better as it doesn't look so cluttered. Much cleaner and readable!!
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR

Postby Oneyed on Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:40 pm

isaiah40 wrote:I like this one better as it doesn't look so cluttered. Much cleaner and readable!!


thanks isaiah40.

here are ones more both versions of map. with which one will be better to continue?

old paper background. version 2.
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this version 1 (original) has as background old wall map. I´ve asked at site where I downloaded background (they sale this map) if I can use it. the answer is yes, this map old about 30 years.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - which one?

Postby bryguy on Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:59 pm

Second. It would look better though with the addition of textures.
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