Office Mafia ENDGAME!! TOWN WINS!!

[drunkmonkey]

4. Iron Butterfly, MoB Deadly, name, safariguy5, drunkmonkey, and Some7thingCLEVER have responded:
a) Some7hing CLEVER's response had nothing to do with my post and was rather off topic.
b)drunkenmonkey had two rather useless one line posts.
c)Djfireside has no response posts.
d)Newguy1 has no response posts.

Those are the facts. I'd like to hear from drunkenmonkey, djfireside and newguy1, before I start voting.

Not sure what you want out of me. No offense, but I think a strict "follow the cop" policy from D1 is an awful idea and the suggestion didn't warrant a direct response. I'd just be echoing what safari & others were saying.

[new guy1]

well, i liked the idea of having the cop and doc work together durring night time, but that wasnt anything new to add and so it would have been reposting what others said. i am not much of a day one person, and so you will find me rather innactive the first "day". sorry

Admitting to submarining?

fos newguy

thats not submarining, thats being honest.

[Nebuchadnezer]

4. Iron Butterfly, MoB Deadly, name, safariguy5, drunkmonkey, and Some7thingCLEVER have responded:
a) Some7hing CLEVER's response had nothing to do with my post and was rather off topic.
b)drunkenmonkey had two rather useless one line posts.
c)Djfireside has no response posts.
d)Newguy1 has no response posts.

Those are the facts. I'd like to hear from drunkenmonkey, djfireside and newguy1, before I start voting.

Not sure what you want out of me. No offense, but I think a strict "follow the cop" policy from D1 is an awful idea and the suggestion didn't warrant a direct response. I'd just be echoing what safari & others were saying.

I'm not offended. I just thought I had something better than, "Let's vote somebody to L-2 so that they have to claim."

That track of thinking doesn't get us anywhere, because of course the mafia will claim townie. Where does that leave us? I've never quite followed the "claiming" idea, unless you think the person will claim a power role. In a 9 player game, forcing a claim on a power roll is practically giving the game away.

I also wanted to keep the dialogue going. How were we supposed to know what you thought without you ever having posted? Your one-liners offer nothing...except suspicion...

well, i liked the idea of having the cop and doc work together durring night time, but that wasnt anything new to add and so it would have been reposting what others said. i am not much of a day one person, and so you will find me rather innactive the first "day". sorry

Another player choosing to not post because they wouldn't "add anything." Seriously? So you'd rather lurk in the shadows, look inactive, and contribute nothing until a direct post is aimed at you? Interesting...

[new guy1]

well yeah, this is my 3rd game i see nothing wrong with it. i would rather keep spam off the forum and be straight up with my actions then post something that has already been said and looking as though i have nothing of my own to say... sorry.

[safariguy5]

4. Iron Butterfly, MoB Deadly, name, safariguy5, drunkmonkey, and Some7thingCLEVER have responded:
a) Some7hing CLEVER's response had nothing to do with my post and was rather off topic.
b)drunkenmonkey had two rather useless one line posts.
c)Djfireside has no response posts.
d)Newguy1 has no response posts.

Those are the facts. I'd like to hear from drunkenmonkey, djfireside and newguy1, before I start voting.

Not sure what you want out of me. No offense, but I think a strict "follow the cop" policy from D1 is an awful idea and the suggestion didn't warrant a direct response. I'd just be echoing what safari & others were saying.

I'm not offended. I just thought I had something better than, "Let's vote somebody to L-2 so that they have to claim."

That track of thinking doesn't get us anywhere, because of course the mafia will claim townie. Where does that leave us? I've never quite followed the "claiming" idea, unless you think the person will claim a power role. In a 9 player game, forcing a claim on a power roll is practically giving the game away.

I also wanted to keep the dialogue going. How were we supposed to know what you thought without you ever having posted? Your one-liners offer nothing...except suspicion...

well, i liked the idea of having the cop and doc work together durring night time, but that wasnt anything new to add and so it would have been reposting what others said. i am not much of a day one person, and so you will find me rather innactive the first "day". sorry

Another player choosing to not post because they wouldn't "add anything." Seriously? So you'd rather lurk in the shadows, look inactive, and contribute nothing until a direct post is aimed at you? Interesting...

My point is that if we don't force people to claim, we're completely reliant on the cop getting mafia through investigations. Which is fine if the cop keeps getting guilty results, but if the cop is NKed or doesn't get a guilty result, what do we do then?

If we get everyone to talk, it's more likely we're going to get scumslips. Day 1 generally is a bit more random than subsequent days, but it's important to get some information out there now so we have some possible leads to pursue for later days. Otherwise, if we don't force claims, then we're basically in the same position on Day 2.

[Djfireside]

You run into various problems with your solution. How do you know who would be a cop and Doctor? Now you putting those two out into the fray and they would be picked off either way you look at it. If the cop steps up and says, This person is okay. The cop is dead.

The cop shouldnt stand up and say, Hi, Im a cop cause its virtual suicide.

Your plan works if the cop and doc know each other and can communicate through PM but I doubt they can.

Good ploy but FOS on that.

[MoB Deadly]

The cop shouldnt stand up and say, Hi, Im a cop cause its virtual suicide.

Even if you use all the WIFOM arguments about okay the cop can claim because it will doc protection or watcher insurance. Its STILL fruitless to claim without a guilty result. And with a game this size we don't even know if this is a standard game or not. Theres no way to tell without some claims and lynches. thats why the L-2 then claim, then pick a lynch is also good.

[Djfireside]

The cop shouldnt stand up and say, Hi, Im a cop cause its virtual suicide.

Even if you use all the WIFOM arguments about okay the cop can claim because it will doc protection or watcher insurance. Its STILL fruitless to claim without a guilty result. And with a game this size we don't even know if this is a standard game or not. Theres no way to tell without some claims and lynches. thats why the L-2 then claim, then pick a lynch is also good.

I agree pressure votes would tend to be the better point of action given the two I believe.

[nàme]

so, we are right back where we started, correct?

[Iron Butterfly]

so, we are right back where we started, correct?

No we are at the beggining of page 5

[drunkmonkey]

Well, we need to get this moving somehow. We have newguy's post of "Hey guys, I'm going to be submarining until something comes up". There's also Some7thingCLEVER, who has made one post since confirming, and it was solely to respond to a vote against him:

vote SomethingClever because I never played with you before. Also, your name is difficult to spell.

lol that's cause I signed up last week and ya I meant it to be that way

unvote vote Some7thingCLEVER to get him talking.

[new guy1]

i dont appreciate how you word it. i was being honest, the point of submarining is not to draw attention to yourself, so why would i tell everybody i wasnt going to be active day one if i was planning on submaring the whole time? jeeze, use common sense...

[MoB Deadly]

i dont appreciate how you word it. i was being honest, the point of submarining is not to draw attention to yourself, so why would i tell everybody i wasnt going to be active day one if i was planning on submaring the whole time? jeeze, use common sense...

The problem is submaring is submarining no matter what. No matter if its intentional or not, or even said ahead of time. Submarining is scummy no matter how you phrase it. Its not voteworthy just yet in my opinion, but its noted for sure.

[new guy1]

okay. ill keep that in mind the next time im trying to be helpful and courtieous...

[safariguy5]

okay. ill keep that in mind the next time im trying to be helpful and courtieous...

Yeah, the other thing is that if you don't participate on bandwagons, we don't learn any information either. So that's definitely a bad thing if you submarine, even on Day 1.