Poll on Racism: Race Relations in America

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Is it just as racist to SUPPORT someone based on race; as it is to OPPOSE someone based on race

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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:38 pm

Lootifer wrote:Ahahahaha.

“I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,”


Well done: You and your "american thinker" blogger missed the point of his statement and immediately jumped on the sound bite.

The blogger being an american thinker is almost too ironic :lol:


I thought it was well done for sharing 2 links from 2 different points of view, but none of your post deals with the actual topic at hand, so........yeah great idea to focus solely on the way I shared the racist comments.

You miss my point, Jackson's point, and even your own. If you vote for someone just because they look like you, then it goes without saying that their policy, agenda, and campaign promises don't matter....which is....wait for it.....what the soundbyte/truth of the comment is.

And fyi, the American thinker is just the name of the website, and thinking is something you have not done yet if you think that me sharing the entire articles, from both sides, is "immediately jumping on a soundbyte". What it is doing is pointing out blatant racism.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby pimpdave on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:42 pm

Sounds to me like more of these candidates need to wear cool sunglasses if they want my vote.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby pimpdave on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Oh hey, check it out. Coincidentally, I have that same pair! Obama is the coolest, most effective, brilliant and amazing president this country has ever had.

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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Lootifer on Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:59 pm

Ok PS, there are a couple of things that jump up at me from the links and your/the bloggers comments on the situation; some are obvious, some not so much:

- Sammy is none too smart (obvious)
- His main point is not that he voted for Obama because he is black but the [fallaciously founded] argument that two wrongs make a right: rephrasing... "dem der white folk wont vote for a black man so ima cancel dem out and not vote for a white man, herpa-dee-derp".

Samual is an idiot, but it doesnt make him racist for supporting a black man (your premise).
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby john9blue on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:14 pm

Lootifer wrote:Samual is an idiot, but it doesnt make him racist for supporting a black man (your premise).


voting for a black man because he's black isn't racist?
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Lootifer on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:15 pm

john9blue wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Samual is an idiot, but it doesnt make him racist for supporting a black man (your premise).


voting for a black man because he's black isn't racist?

No, and i've discussed the reasons for this earlier in the thread.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby john9blue on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:34 pm

Lootifer wrote:No, and i've discussed the reasons for this earlier in the thread.


link me so i can see how you managed to justify that LOL
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby pimpdave on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:48 pm

I like how this thread conveniently resurfaces after Herman Cain is out of contention.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Mr_Adams on Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:55 pm

pimpdave wrote:I like how this thread conveniently resurfaces after Herman Cain is out of contention.


I like how that fact is completely irrelevant.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:05 am

Lootifer wrote:Ok PS, there are a couple of things that jump up at me from the links and your/the bloggers comments on the situation; some are obvious, some not so much:

- Sammy is none too smart (obvious)
- His main point is not that he voted for Obama because he is black but the [fallaciously founded] argument that two wrongs make a right: rephrasing... "dem der white folk wont vote for a black man so ima cancel dem out and not vote for a white man, herpa-dee-derp".

Samual is an idiot, but it doesnt make him racist for supporting a black man (your premise).


He's not racist for supporting a black man. He is racist for making his decision based solely on skin color. I think that is as clean as a match to being racist as it gets. If you say you will only vote for someone who is black, you also say that you are not supporting someone else because they are white/purple/yellow/green......NOT BLACK!

I understand this is a "progressive" attitude, which makes total sense when it comes to the issue of racism. I also understand sometimes the racism is so blatant that you can't even see it until after you give it some thought.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:08 am

pimpdave wrote:Obama is the most effective, brilliant and amazing president this country has ever had.


Source? :lol:
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby pimpdave on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:10 am

Mr_Adams wrote:
pimpdave wrote:I like how this thread conveniently resurfaces after Herman Cain is out of contention.


I like how that fact is completely irrelevant.


No it's not.
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:15 am

Obama flunked out of College!

Sure, he's the most intelligent person ever!
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Re: Poll on Racism: Morgan Freeman Strikes Back!

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:17 am

If Phatscotty is quoting correctly, then here's the problem between what Samual L. Jackson said and how the blogger misinterpreted/misonstrued Sammy J's stance:

Phatscotty wrote:http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/02/samuel_l_jackson_look_beyond_race_assess_the_man.html

When Ebony asked actor Samuel L. Jackson where he stood, his answer raised some eyebrows. Obama's "message didn't mean sh*t to me," Jackson said, according to the New York Post. "I just hoped he would do some of what he said he was gonna do." Implying that Obama has not yet been able to behave like a "scary" "n*gga," Jackson said he hopes Obama will be more "scary" in his second term, "cuz he ain't gotta worry about getting re-elected." "I voted for Barack because he was black," Jackson said.


Samuel L. Jackson believes Obama's character, policies and agenda are irrelevant. Jackson said he voted for Obama because he is black.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... z1mJNhRRId


http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/201 ... 14201.html


Note the above underlined parts.

"Samuel L. Jackson believes Obama's character, policies and agenda are irrelevant" (blogger), yet Sammy J actually said, "I just hoped he would do some of what he said he was gonna do." Expecting Obama to fulfill his promises places an importance on Obama's policies and agenda, thus those become relevant to Samuel L. Jackson.

For the blogger's criticism of Sammy J to be correct, the blogger has to show that Sammy J's expectation of Obama fulfilling his promises had no affect whatsoever on Sammy J's decision to vote for Obama. Absolutely no effect, none. Then we can safely conclude that Sammy J voted for Obama solely because he was black.*


*which I don't think is the only reason why--due to Sammy J's expectations of Obama and his promised outcomes. How many people would vote for Herman Cain because he is black? (Just sayin, there's more to it than skin color).
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Re: Poll on Racism: Samuel Jackson

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:19 am

Lootifer wrote:Ahahahaha.

“I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,”


Well done: You and your "american thinker" blogger missed the point of his statement and immediately jumped on the sound bite.

The blogger being an american thinker is almost too ironic :lol:


Exactly. They did (un)intentionally missed the point (well, at least the blogger did for sure).

Voting for someone solely for the reason of their looks doesn't really encompass the influences on an individual's decision to vote for Obama.
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