Conquer Club
CC Time:

NHL Season 2011-2012

\\OFF-TOPIC// conversations about everything that has nothing to do with Conquer Club.

Moderators: Global Moderators, Discussions Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby FoxMists on Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:32 pm

caymanmew wrote:
keiths31 wrote:Ottawa is a surprising 5th thus far. =D>

and there going to win the cup! :mrgreen:

Blind faith in your team is great. It pays their salaries, really. Else the Canucks, Sens, and Leafs would have all gone bankrupt. :D

But the Cup? You've now left the real world and entered... the Twilight Zone... :geek:
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class FoxMists
 
Posts: 120
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:11 pm
Location: Vancouver
Medals: 8
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
General Contribution (1)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby Serbia on Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:58 pm

The Detroit Red Wings just set a new NHL record with their 21st consecutive home victory. Congratulations Wings!
User avatar
Lieutenant Serbia
Tournament Director
Tournament Director
 
Posts: 9033
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm
Location: Detroit
Medals: 74
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (9) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (4)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby TheProwler on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Serbia wrote:The Detroit Red Wings just set a new NHL record with their 21st consecutive home victory. Congratulations Wings!


That's pretty remarkable. Just out of curiosity, how many of those were OT wins? Does this record need an asterisk beside it?
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
User avatar
Colonel TheProwler
 
Posts: 6237
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:54 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Medals: 46
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (4) Quadruples Achievement (4) Terminator Achievement (1)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (3) Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (10)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby Serbia on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:23 am

TheProwler wrote:
Serbia wrote:The Detroit Red Wings just set a new NHL record with their 21st consecutive home victory. Congratulations Wings!


That's pretty remarkable. Just out of curiosity, how many of those were OT wins? Does this record need an asterisk beside it?


I think 4 of them were. So go ahead and add your cute little asterisk. I know people are going to use that to try to diminish the record, but I say; if it's so much easier to do it now, with the benefit of OT and shootouts, why is it that since ties were eliminated, the longest streak before this one was Boston in 2008-2009, winning only 14? Any way you cut it, this record IS impressive.
User avatar
Lieutenant Serbia
Tournament Director
Tournament Director
 
Posts: 9033
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm
Location: Detroit
Medals: 74
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (9) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (4)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby keiths31 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:29 am

It's just as easy to lose in a shootout ass it is to win in a shootout.
Image
User avatar
Lieutenant keiths31
 
Posts: 2176
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:41 pm
Location: somewhere being a professional tutu wearer
Medals: 61
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (1)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (2)
Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (7)
Clan Achievement (7) Tournament Contribution (20)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby TheProwler on Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:17 pm

I'm not trying to downplay the achievement. As I said "It is remarkable."

But the fact is that because they don't allow ties to stand, it is now possible to extend a winning streak where they would have been recorded as ties in the past (not too long ago they didn't even play overtime when there was a regulation time tied score).

So it's really hard to equate the "pre-overtime era" record with the "overtime era" record. That's a fact that can't really be argued, unless all the wins come in regulation time.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
User avatar
Colonel TheProwler
 
Posts: 6237
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:54 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Medals: 46
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (4) Quadruples Achievement (4) Terminator Achievement (1)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (3) Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (10)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby Serbia on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Pavel Datsyuk scores with 5 seconds left, as Detroit defeats Nashville 2-1, and runs their home winning streak to 22 consecutive games.
User avatar
Lieutenant Serbia
Tournament Director
Tournament Director
 
Posts: 9033
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm
Location: Detroit
Medals: 74
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (9) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (4)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby oVo on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:21 am

The old record was set by the Bruins in 1930. If the shootout/tie thing was an issue,
it would still be an unbeaten streak at home.
User avatar
Major oVo
 
Posts: 1655
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: Antarctica
Medals: 6
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (2)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby TheProwler on Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:51 pm

Yeah, to equate the two, you would have to compare the "unbeaten at home in regulation time" streak. The 2011/12 Red Wings might have that record...

The other option is a "Winning streak in regulation time at home" streak. With 4 regulation time ties, the 2011/12 Red Wings probably are far from having that record (but I don't know what games they got a tie in...assuming they were spread out, they are probably only at 5 or 6 or 7 for that streak...).

It's quite a streak, either way.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
User avatar
Colonel TheProwler
 
Posts: 6237
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:54 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Medals: 46
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (4) Quadruples Achievement (4) Terminator Achievement (1)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (3) Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (10)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby Serbia on Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:57 am

23 straight after Sunday's win at home vs. San Jose.
User avatar
Lieutenant Serbia
Tournament Director
Tournament Director
 
Posts: 9033
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm
Location: Detroit
Medals: 74
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (9) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (4)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby ben79 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Serbia wrote:23 straight after Sunday's win at home vs. San Jose.



writing the book of records ....

even if the habs have a poor season we might gonna set a record as well = best penalty killing in the league
User avatar
Major ben79
 
Posts: 486
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:29 pm
Medals: 54
Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (3)
Assassin Achievement (3) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (3) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (3) Fog of War Achievement (4)
Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (3) Cross-Map Achievement (3)
Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (2) General Achievement (5)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby ricthefirst on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:54 pm

Just a comment on the Wings winning streak, as remarkable as it is, I think that we should look at how many home games without loosing as opposed to winning home games, to give justice to the pre-overtime record.
34 home games without loosing in 76-77 for habs.
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class ricthefirst
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:05 pm
Location: In front of my PC (MTL)
Medals: 14
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (1)
Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby whitestazn88 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:22 pm

ricthefirst wrote:Just a comment on the Wings winning streak, as remarkable as it is, I think that we should look at how many home games without loosing as opposed to winning home games, to give justice to the pre-overtime record.
34 home games without loosing in 76-77 for habs.


loosing what? they were tense for 34 straight games? loosing the boards?
Sergeant 1st Class whitestazn88
 
Posts: 3153
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:59 pm
Location: behind you
Medals: 28
Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (2)
Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (1)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby TheProwler on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:06 pm

ricthefirst wrote:Just a comment on the Wings winning streak, as remarkable as it is, I think that we should look at how many home games without loosing as opposed to winning home games, to give justice to the pre-overtime record.
34 home games without loosing in 76-77 for habs.


That would be the "unbeaten at home in regulation time" streak I was talking about.

The fact that the Red Wings have won all their overtime games only means that this new record cannot really be equated to any old record (for instance, you can't be sure the 76-77 Habs would have won all their overtime games if they had to play them).
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
User avatar
Colonel TheProwler
 
Posts: 6237
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:54 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Medals: 46
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (4) Quadruples Achievement (4) Terminator Achievement (1)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (3) Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (10)

Re: NHL Season 2011-2012

Postby Serbia on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:56 am

TheProwler wrote:
ricthefirst wrote:Just a comment on the Wings winning streak, as remarkable as it is, I think that we should look at how many home games without loosing as opposed to winning home games, to give justice to the pre-overtime record.
34 home games without loosing in 76-77 for habs.


That would be the "unbeaten at home in regulation time" streak I was talking about.

The fact that the Red Wings have won all their overtime games only means that this new record cannot really be equated to any old record (for instance, you can't be sure the 76-77 Habs would have won all their overtime games if they had to play them).


The fact is, no record can be compared to any other record from another era. Take goals scored. You can say that that "scoring is scoring", and make an argument that based on goals scored, Gretzky is greater than Howe. But you have no idea how Gretzky would have held up in a rougher era, nor how greater strides in fitness, and a watered-down over all talent pool would have helped Gordie's game. Who was the better goalie, Terry Sawchuk, or Patrick Roy? Better defenseman, Bobby Orr, or Nick Lidstrom? There will always be debates, and the fact is, because you cannot compare these players head-to-head, there will never be a definitive way to say who's greater. But that is just part of what makes sports fun. In fact, arguments rage from annually over who the best players are in any given year.

The Wings have taken advantage of modern day rules, and set a record. Can we accurately compare them to previous eras? Not at all. But in this modern era, no one comes close, and that on it's own is impressive.
User avatar
Lieutenant Serbia
Tournament Director
Tournament Director
 
Posts: 9033
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm
Location: Detroit
Medals: 74
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Tournament Achievement (9) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (4)

PreviousNext

Return to One Does Not Simply Walk Into The Forums

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baron Von PWN and 4 guests

 

Login

 

 

 

Bookmark and Share

 

Give Premium

Gift Certificates