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Re: New Zealand [22.2.12] V11-P8 - CB Check 2 adjusted

Postby ender516 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:11 pm

The way the bonuses are described right now seems perfectly clear. I see no need for a minimap.
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Re: New Zealand [22.2.12] V11-P8 - CB Check 2 adjusted

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:40 pm

ender516 wrote:The way the bonuses are described right now seems perfectly clear. I see no need for a minimap.

I think I agree.


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Re: New Zealand [22.2.12] V11-P8 - CB Check 2 adjusted

Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:36 pm

ender516 wrote:The way the bonuses are described right now seems perfectly clear. I see no need for a minimap.

AndyDufresne wrote:
ender516 wrote:The way the bonuses are described right now seems perfectly clear. I see no need for a minimap.

I think I agree.
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Gents, thanks for coming in so quickly to comment...
The reason i asked this question is that i am feeling the current text style while adequate because of colouration etc, couldn't be improved upon with a visual representation as well as text. Now i say as well as text because one of the reasons i do these maps apart from enjoyment for players etc and myself, has a sub-motive of education. That is one of the reasons i started with the CCC map. IN this case, if players can see where the Bay of Plenty is then they are more likely to remember it by playing the map over a couple of times if it is good enough for them to do so.
So below is an example of what the North Island might look like. What do you think?

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Re: New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - Legend? minimap, text or

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:51 pm

I think the mini-map here works out very well!! Just move the abbreviation down between the mini-map and airport instructions and it will be perfect!
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Re: New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - Legend? minimap, text or

Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:47 pm

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Length: 14 days
From the above image Version 12 map...much of the clutter has been removed so people can see more clearly what they are voting for.
You have two options to vote for and votes are changeable should you wish.
Please only place one vote in Mountains and one vote for Legends.
The category with the largest vote will go onto the map with consideration given to any welcome constructive comments posted :)


Mountains:
There are 4 styles of mountains to decide upon:
* Blue box - these are filled and outllined mountains drawn in PS and imported to Illustrator as bitmaps
* Rex box - these are filled mountains only with outlines removed in PS, but black vector outlines added in Illustrator
* Old style no box - these are the original mountains
* Combinations - indicate in the poll if you think a combination of the three styles might be appropriate

Legend:
There are 3 styles of legend to decide upon:
* Text only - this is the same text style that is currently on the map for the South Island
* Mini-map - this is the mini-map without the text indicating the region names
* Mini-map and text - combination of mini-map and text - allowing players to recognise the regions by name
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:06 am

cairnswk, always looking for ways to improve, I like it. The mountains you had (without box) where fine. They looked OK to me. But the mini map with the text looks like a winner. Not only does it fill the space up better than the large text, it just looks nicer. It may not be needed, like Andy and enders said, but it is a winner IMO.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby cairnswk on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:45 am

koontz1973 wrote:cairnswk, always looking for ways to improve, I like it. The mountains you had (without box) where fine. They looked OK to me. But the mini map with the text looks like a winner. Not only does it fill the space up better than the large text, it just looks nicer. It may not be needed, like Andy and enders said, but it is a winner IMO.

koontz193, thanks for that comment, but you know inevitably the mountains will be regarded as not good enough, so that is why i am doing this now. I agree about the mim-map and text. :) It looks much clearer and less cluttered.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:54 am

Well, about the mountains, I still say the ones you have are great, just because one or two may not like the look or style to them, it can be said that a majority do and they can stay. But honestly, the new ones are not even close to the ones you have now. They just do not fit the style of map.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby natty dread on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:57 am

koontz1973 wrote:just because one or two may not like the look or style to them, it can be said that a majority do and they can stay.


What does "majority" have to do with anything?

For the record, it's good that you're looking to improve the mountains. However, the ones in the blue rectangles look really blurry, while the ones in the red circle look kind of weird, the lines seem to go a bit oddly there...

I think the best choice would be to do something similar to your current mountains, with the crisp look and style, but add more variation to the mountain images, so that they're not all just repetition of the one same mountain image.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:07 am

natty dread wrote:What does "majority" have to do with anything?


Simple - if, in the end, the current mountains fit the style, are graphically good, get discussed in an open manner and most people want them, then it will come to a time when a late comer to the discussion can be rebuffed politely and say we have already gone over this. But this is for another thread.

It would be nice though to have a better choice of mountains though than the two you have given us. :|
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby natty dread on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:33 am

koontz1973 wrote:Simple - if, in the end, the current mountains fit the style, are graphically good, get discussed in an open manner and most people want them, then it will come to a time when a late comer to the discussion can be rebuffed politely and say we have already gone over this.


Actually, as long as the map is not in beta, any part of it is open for discussion, even if it has been discussed before. If someone later comes along and notices something that no one else has noticed before, then it should be addressed.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:45 am

natty dread wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Simple - if, in the end, the current mountains fit the style, are graphically good, get discussed in an open manner and most people want them, then it will come to a time when a late comer to the discussion can be rebuffed politely and say we have already gone over this.


Actually, as long as the map is not in beta, any part of it is open for discussion, even if it has been discussed before. If someone later comes along and notices something that no one else has noticed before, then it should be addressed.

But that is a new issue, not an old issue and needs to be addressed.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby cairnswk on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:08 am

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koontz1973 wrote:just because one or two may not like the look or style to them, it can be said that a majority do and they can stay.


What does "majority" have to do with anything?

For the record, it's good that you're looking to improve the mountains. However, the ones in the blue rectangles look really blurry, while the ones in the red circle look kind of weird, the lines seem to go a bit oddly there...

I think the best choice would be to do something similar to your current mountains, with the crisp look and style, but add more variation to the mountain images, so that they're not all just repetition of the one same mountain image.


Blue rectangle is a direct link file from PS into Illustrator. Actually i am disappointed in PS that it doesn't give me the same functionality that Illustrator does re line width, or if it does, i haven't dsicovered it yet.

That's fairly enough said natty, but did you record you're vote for the old ones?
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby natty dread on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:17 am

cairnswk wrote:That's fairly enough said natty, but did you record you're vote for the old ones?


Like I said, if you make the old ones such that there's a bit more variation in them.
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Re: [POLL] New Zealand [22.2.12] V12-P9 - mountains and lege

Postby DiM on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:27 am

natty dread wrote:
cairnswk wrote:That's fairly enough said natty, but did you record you're vote for the old ones?


Like I said, if you make the old ones such that there's a bit more variation in them.


+1. old mountains style but with variation instead of copy paste.
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