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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby ender516 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:36 pm

That looks much clearer.
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [23.2.12] V29-P24 Final adjustments

Postby DiM on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:52 pm

the current version looks NOTHING like what was shown here:
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why are all the stations blurry when you showed us you can make them crisp and sharp?


here are the images side by side:

clean sharp station in the middle .................... current blurry version
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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.2.12] V29-P24 Final adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:05 pm

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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:57 pm

ender516 wrote:That looks much clearer.

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Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:40 am

Some of them are still blurry. Upon a closer examination, I discovered that you are using a 1px line which when you put it on the light background shows the bleeding sort to speak. Which creates a 2px line with 1px being faded which is making the lines look blurry. I hope I made sense?
Whatever you did to make these vertical lines clean and crisp is what you need to do to all the lines, both vertical and horizontal. You will also notice that your 1px lines actually ended up being 2px lines in this shot.
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:14 am

He can't do that....not using coreldraw....why it's so hard to understand? :?
Anyway....since it seems now we play this game with a magnifier....I was asked to bin this map by the mapmaker.

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As said to cairnswk, I'll move the rest later...as soon as I have the time to do it properly.

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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby DiM on Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:01 am

thenobodies80 wrote:He can't do that....not using coreldraw....why it's so hard to understand? :?


HE already made a clean sharp station. entirely made by HIM. so HE can do it. :roll:
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Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby cairnswk on Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:37 am

Gentlemen
I have made three good attemps at getting these blurry lines correct now. Why some work and others don't i simply don't know.
The third attempt was made by redrawing all the stations and text in another program on the background on the grid system of Illustrator and even this came out blurry when magnified although to the naked eye they appear as good.
If you want to say "here's cairns having another tantrum" - go ahead.
But I am really tired of playing this game of magnified blurry lines that i simply do not know how to fix, therefore the map is no longer viable for your standards, and i am no longer interested in trying to fix it.
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:40 am

He can do it but not with coreldraw, read what I write DiM, not just part of it....Anyway I'm not here to argue with you.

Now I propose to go with a democratic system....this is a simple a direct question: who, a part DiM, thinks this map is not playable or that has a quality that is not acceptable?

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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby DiM on Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:15 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:He can do it but not with coreldraw,



this is BULLSHIT. he already proved that he can do it. i don't care if he uses photoshop, coreldraw, mspaint or simply farts and the crisp stations come out.
the point is he can do it so he should do it.

you want a democratic system? since when was this how the foundry works?
that means that if i call 100 people to support me i can pass anything around?

you want to use your own judgement? by all means do it but be careful what you choose.

let this slide and soon anybody will say "yea i can correct the pixelated lines but not in the software i use"
"sure i could make the borders crisp and nice instead of blurry, here's a sample, see how nice they are? but i won't do it in the final image cause i made them in photoshop not coreldraw"

PS: my laptop just crashed so i don't have photoshop available. is this a good excuse to make all my updates in paint? :roll:
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:20 pm

Maybe one of you nice cartographers could assist cairnswk if he doesn't have the tools to do what you would like. Even though I am not a fan of the Rail series at all, this map looks like it would be a nice addition.


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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:22 pm

DiM, you're a good mapmaker but you still have a lot to learn about diplomacy.
If I have to be a pixel inspector I can find also on your maps things that need a fix.
I respect you and I don't want to argue with you about a map, specially if it's not a my own work. But damn I have a list of people that is annoyed by your way to say/tell things. Learn a bit to work/live with the others. Maybe you're lucky and it doesn't happen to you, but I know lot of people that would like to break something on your head. Com'on, don't make a fuss for everything ! Or nothing I would say. The foundry was a so quiet place...no need to bring a strom with you all time. ;)

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe one of you nice cartographers could assist cairnswk if he doesn't have the tools to do what you would like. Even though I am not a fan of the Rail series at all, this map looks like it would be a nice addition.


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Already asked to cairnswk, he kinldy declined the offers providing a good answer a thoughtful reasons. Simply DiM is making this bigger than what is really just because he do in this way when things don't work like he thinks. O:)

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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby DiM on Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:24 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe one of you nice cartographers could assist cairnswk if he doesn't have the tools to do what you would like.


that's not necessary, he HAS the tools and he CAN make crisp nice stations. he just doesn't want to.

here's a sample MADE BY HIM:
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notice how nice and crisp that station is? if he did that, then he clearly can do all, right?
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:04 pm

DiM, your intentions are good. But few people want to respond to anyone that comes across like a jerk or a dick or a negative nancy or like you have a personal vendetta because you don't like someone's style of map, idea, etc. It's a lot like politics. When one side is yelling, the otherside will never hear the content, just the volume. Volume often just makes any process even tougher than it has to be for little overall benefit.

Part of the issue may be the internet medium, that people cannot read facial expressions and hear tones of voice, that go along with text. Perhaps your words would seem less so if we were in person having a real conversation. But with just words, it can probably sound awfully loud and vindictive.

Best of luck everyone,


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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [1.3.12] V30-P25 Final adjustments

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:50 pm

Yeah, remind me this: :lol:


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